Are Promoters Even Necessary These Days

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  • Mikeh333
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    Are Promoters Even Necessary These Days

    I’m wondering, in the age of social media, if large companies are even needed to promote a fight. What does, say, Bob Arum provide a fighter that a small social media consultant couldn’t? This is a sincere question, I do not know the fight industry. It just seems odd that they appear to promote fights today the same way that they did in the 1960s 1970s.
  • brettWall
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    PBC fighters are not signed with any promoter, except a few. They promote themselves. Meaning they can fight anywhere if they want to.
    Last edited by brettWall; 08-12-2022, 03:39 PM.

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    • Tails
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      Yes to an extent.

      Someone still has to finance the events and keep the fighters active. This cost money and connections/contracts with venues and networks to get the performer an audience.

      In my view this is bound to change sooner rather than later. De la Hoya paved a path as a fighter turned promoter and for all the flack he gets did build a successful company. He also surrounded himself with people that know the business.

      I think a boxer that understands marketing in today's age and that can combine that with the business and risk side of things will do good as a promoter going forward in boxing.

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      • Mikeh333
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        Originally posted by Tails
        Yes to an extent.

        Someone still has to finance the events and keep the fighters active. This cost money and connections/contracts with venues and networks to get the performer an audience.

        In my view this is bound to change sooner rather than later. De la Hoya paved a path as a fighter turned promoter and for all the flack he gets did build a successful company. He also surrounded himself with people that know the business.

        I think a boxer that understands marketing in today's age and that can combine that with the business and risk side of things will do good as a promoter going forward in boxing.
        Thank you that is a good point. I have wondered why few fighters have followed DLH/Mayweather’s path and started his own promotion company. I mean, why allow a promoter to take 30% of your purse (or something like that) if you don’t have to?

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        • bballchump11
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          #5
          Lower level boxers can use them. Plus we see what happens if you have the wrong promoter like Andrade or Reigis.

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          • War Room
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            #6
            Originally posted by Mikeh333
            I’m wondering, in the age of social media, if large companies are even needed to promote a fight. What does, say, Bob Arum provide a fighter that a small social media consultant couldn’t? This is a sincere question, I do not know the fight industry. It just seems odd that they appear to promote fights today the same way that they did in the 1960s 1970s.
            Here we go, another one of these guys that DKSAB.

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            • PRINCEKOOL
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              #7
              Originally posted by bballchump11
              Lower level boxers can use them. Plus we see what happens if you have the wrong promoter like Andrade or Reigis.
              How many boxers currently active now, can promote their own fights if they really wanted to.

              Alvarez, Joshua, Fury, that is about it.

              Not every boxer, even if they are world champions reach this level.

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              • sicko
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                #8
                Maybe not a Promoter BUT you do need that well connected "Power Broker"

                like a Haymon (and many will hate this but it is true) who not only have Power and Control over Venues from and Decades and Decades of building Relationships with Wealthy and Powerful People not from just boxing but from his Concert Promoting going all the way back to like the 80's but also clearly well connected with Belt Organizations to get you up those Ranks and in Position for a Title Shot immediately

                It is hard to get all this stuff on your own, VERY HARD and almost impossible. Yes you can self promote but it is so much that goes into organizing your own Event and it COST:

                Licensing Fees, Insurance, Pay For Venue...it will discourage you quickly from even trying to Self Promote when you see how difficult it is. While a Arum, Haymon, Eddie, Oscar...a few phone calls and they can make fights happen and get you in a nice Venue and all you have to do is focus on fighting, show up and get paid guaranteed money

                Tevin Farmer and Mickey Bey doing their own thing tonight and I wish them all the lucky in the world but how many people actually know bout this event tonight? Exactly!
                Last edited by sicko; 08-12-2022, 07:29 PM.

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                • Babadoux
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                  #9
                  They're more like networking and event coordination agencies than "promoters" these days.

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                  • BoxingIsGreat
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                    #10
                    The better question is: Are the corrupt belt orgs at all necessary?

                    These crooks do nothing physically or anything else, like invest in boxers like some promoters do. Think about that if you are a real boxing fan. Don't be sheep. You know who the Champ is in every division if you follow boxing. Try to be semi-unbiased in your rankings. Use your own eyes. Your ranking is much better than these corrupt belt orgs, ALL OF THEM. For me, most divisions have no clear Champ. Some do.

                    I never recognized any of these belt orgs since I started watching boxing. They sell their soul to the highest bidder and have no method or any ethics. This is the nicest things I have ever said about them.

                    Promoters, on the other hand, can be quite sleezy and corrupt themselves, but they are necessary for organizing the events and financing.

                    The corrupt belt orgs do ABSOLUTELY nothing.
                    Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 08-12-2022, 07:57 PM.

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