Hrgovic vs Zhang

[Tatabanya]

Whatever happens, I'm rooting for Zhang.

[Dr. Z]

Hrgovic's feet are slow as ****. Fury and Usyk box laps around that boy purely based on this factor.

From what I have seen, his defence is completely lacklustre. Perhaps because he cannot get up for the bums put across him thus far or maybe his skills have simply declined?

Regardless, he is a hypejob and not the ATG-level HW that was promised. We should be skeptical of any HW that gets REDEEMER's backing

No, he is fleet footed. You don't know what your talking about. He is already rated among ring magazine's top ten, which is about as good as pubic rantings get. Who says he will be an ATG HW?

[Good ol' Douglas]

No, he is fleet footed. You don't know what your talking about. He is already rated among ring magazine's top ten, which is about as good as pubic rantings get. Who says he will be an ATG HW?

So is Dillian "The Uppercut Catcher" Shyte...

You thinking Hrgovic is fleet of foot is just laughable. Not even his biggest fan on this forum tried to argue otherwise with me.

[PrimadonnaKool]

In a couple of years Usyk vs hrgovic will decide who was the best post klitschko heavyweight and the loser will be number 2.

[Dr. Z]

So is Dillian "The Uppercut Catcher" Shyte...

You thinking Hrgovic is fleet of foot is just laughable. Not even his biggest fan on this forum tried to argue otherwise with me.

As I said you don't know what your talking about. He doesn't move like 60's Ali mind you but for a big guy he can really move well around the ring,

[PRINCEKOOL]

Zhang has some fast disguised punches.

If he does land one of his big punches, it will be interesting how Hrgovic reacts.

Apart from that Hrgovic is probably the better fighter. But I am not really that impressed with Hrgovic. Just seems like another Super Heavyweight, who has learnt the basics and boxing 'That seems to be enough these days to impress some people'.

Hrgovic better start winning big fights, his peak seems to be his sparring sessions with David Haye 'A long time ago'.

[Dr. Z]

Zhang has some fast disguised punches.

If he does land one of his big punches, it will be interesting how Hrgovic reacts.

Apart from that Hrgovic is probably the better fighter. But I am not really that impressed with Hrgovic. Just seems like another Super Heavyweight, who has learnt the basics and boxing 'That seems to be enough these days to impress some people'.

Hrgovic better start winning big fights, his peak seems to be his sparring sessions with David Haye 'A long time ago'.

What aren't you impressed with specifically? Aside form his promoter, and there just aren't as many fights around these days, Hrgovic has been moved along fairly quickly. He has fight better opponents than Lewis, Tyson, Klitschko did their first professional 15 fights. In his fights, which have included former contenders and name journeyman, he has absolutely blown them away, losing maybe a grand total of one round in all his fights and produced a knockdown in all his fights save one, and that one was an 8 rounder. The fights can be found in on you tube. I have seen them all. Fury by contrast has looked a lot shaker is his first 15, being floored twice ( something that hasn't happen to Hrgovic as a pro, or amateur and that includes the very pro like Word Series of Boxing ) where he chin was tested. Fury lost many rounds and needed a gift decision to win a fight! Wilder fought a bunch of nobody's for his first 30 fights!

What is it? He's certainly big enough, 6'6", long enough, 82" reach and hits hard enough. He certainly has the skills in the amateurs losing last match is the semi finals of Rio Olympics via SD the gold medal winner Tony Yoka. A bad call, in a games full of them. I saw it, he should have won the decision.

Again he rips his sparring partners up today. And he did it as an amateur and young professional. Granted the heavyweight division isn't as deep or talented as it was 10-20 years ago, but what will you give him credit if/when he beats Zhang? Joyce, Parker and Ruiz didn't accept the IBF elimination match with Hrgovic, and they don't have a shot lined up. Other fighters declined the invite as well. Who decline an elimination match? What where they afraid of? Not to forget the fact the Mike Hunter pulled out go the fight with Hrgovic, uninjured. Up next for the winner is a title unification match for the IBF heavyweight title fight which is on the under card of the Joshua vs Usyk fight. Now that's a worthy title fight. Hrgovic is in position to fight the champ.

You sound like your know your stuff, I am curious to your reply. Looking forward to a high quality conversation.

[PRINCEKOOL]

What aren't you impressed with specifically? Aside form his promoter, and there just aren't as many fights around these days, Hrgovic has been moved along fairly quickly. He has fight better opponents than Lewis, Tyson, Klitschko did their first professional 15 fights. In his fights, which have included former contenders and name journeyman, he has absolutely blown them away, losing maybe a grand total of one round in all his fights and produced a knockdown in all his fights save one, and that one was an 8 rounder. The fights can be found in on you tube. I have seen them all. Fury by contrast has looked a lot shaker is his first 15, being floored twice ( something that hasn't happen to Hrgovic as a pro, or amateur and that includes the very pro like Word Series of Boxing ) where he chin was tested. Fury lost many rounds and needed a gift decision to win a fight! Wilder fought a bunch of nobody's for his first 30 fights!

What is it? He's certainly big enough, 6'6", long enough, 82" reach and hits hard enough. He certainly has the skills in the amateurs losing last match is the semi finals of Rio Olympics via SD the gold medal winner Tony Yoka. A bad call, in a games full of them. I saw it, he should have won the decision.

Again he rips his sparring partners up today. And he did it as an amateur and young professional. Granted the heavyweight division isn't as deep or talented as it was 10-20 years ago, but what will you give him credit if/when he beats Zhang? Joyce, Parker and Ruiz didn't accept the IBF elimination match with Hrgovic, and they don't have a shot lined up. Other fighters declined the invite as well. Who decline an elimination match? What where they afraid of? Not to forget the fact the Mike Hunter pulled out go the fight with Hrgovic, uninjured. Up next for the winner is a title unification match for the IBF heavyweight title fight which is on the under card of the Joshua vs Usyk fight. Now that's a worthy title fight. Hrgovic is in position to fight the champ.

You sound like your know your stuff, I am curious to your reply. Looking forward to a high quality conversation.

Nice post. Good.

I am referring to David Haye's training camp back in 2013 for Tyson Fury. Hrgovic was one of the sparring partners he used. And apparently gave a good account for himself.

Since then? I personally don't think Hrgovic has done much.

Joe Joyce has been moved along quicker and faced better opponents.

I just think because he is a super heavyweight who has mastered the basics, people kind of get carried away with his abilities.

I cannot really pin point any super great attributes that he has. But he do seem solid all around.

Hrgovic just needs to land a big fight, against a solid gate keeper or another prospect.

Only then will we know how truly good he is.

You seem like a fan of his, I have not really analysed his career in detail.

[Dr. Z]

Nice post. Good.

I am referring to David Haye's training camp back in 2013 for Tyson Fury. Hrgovic was one of the sparring partners he used. And apparently gave a good account for himself.

Since then? I personally don't think Hrgovic has done much.

Joe Joyce has been moved along quicker and faced better opponents.

I just think because he is a super heavyweight who has mastered the basics, people kind of get carried away with his abilities.

I cannot really pin point any super great attributes that he has. But he do seem solid all around.

Hrgovic just needs to land a big fight, against a solid gate keeper or another prospect.

Only then will we know how truly good he is.

You seem like a fan of his, I have not really analysed his career in detail.

Yes, I 'm a fan but objective one. A young Hrgovic as an amateur is in another thread with Wilder and schools him for two rounds. Hrgovic is much bigger, stronger and more experienced in 2022. Joyce's time is now due to his age, and he declined the IBF eliminator with Hrgovic. Like you Hrgovic he is a super heavyweight but not just a big guy. He can hit and box and IMO has a bit more than just all around ability. I have seen many heavyweights fights and I judge him to be the best heavyweight prospect since Kiltschko. That is a lot to live up to but that's the way I see it. Another super heavyweight with watching is the southpaw Jalolov. He's huge like Hrgovic, a southpaw and I think he has even better power. He's got the best straight left in the game today. Good skills too. Not much of an in-fighter. Watch him. These two are the top 30 and under heavyweights in the game today.

Anyway Zhang is a solid top 30 guy, I see him being out boxed and taken out in the mid rounds. Today there isn't that much difference between Zhang and the top 15 or bottom level top 10 guy.

[REDEEMER]

Nice post. Good.

I am referring to David Haye's training camp back in 2013 for Tyson Fury. Hrgovic was one of the sparring partners he used. And apparently gave a good account for himself.

Since then? I personally don't think Hrgovic has done much.

Joe Joyce has been moved along quicker and faced better opponents.

I just think because he is a super heavyweight who has mastered the basics, people kind of get carried away with his abilities.

I cannot really pin point any super great attributes that he has. But he do seem solid all around.

Hrgovic just needs to land a big fight, against a solid gate keeper or another prospect.

Only then will we know how truly good he is.

You seem like a fan of his, I have not really analysed his career in detail.

Hrgovic went to the Olympics and medaled , was also Klitschko and Fury sparring partners and has one of the greatest resumes in WSOB . What else was he supposed to do ?

Joe Joyce declined Hrgovic 2 years ago along with just about everyone recently so how was he moved along quicker really comparable ? Just recently he also was in the gym in Texas waiting for Jared Anderson who was a no show ..no one wants to even spar him .Hrgovic has stated way back in the beginning he could defeat everyone, while Joyce said he needed more fights it’s pretty clear who was trying to get the fights faster .

Fighters weren’t afraid of Joyce in fact they didn’t think he was that good until they were in the actual ring with him ,even DDD was laughing . Hrgovic is the real boogeyman of the division it’s a fact .