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  • hugh grant
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    #11
    This will not be easy for either. Yes, flip is favourite but Zhang will give a good test he's got credentials and well trained

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      Hrgoivc can use his jab well, but hasn't in most fights. In addition to being 6'6" with an 82" reach 245 pounds, he has fast feet and pretty fast hands. He hits hard but what is special about him, and it's a rarity among heavyweights is he has a great chin. He has never been down as an amateur or pro and taken some flush punches without knees buckling or being close to going down. When hit he continues his attack and has the type of style that forces the other man to be defensive or fight back at most points of the round. He can be countered back he's very aggressive but he's got the chin to take it. He's not just a head hunter. He has a good body shot too. I see the next heavyweight champion in him.
      Last edited by Dr. Z; 08-10-2022, 06:53 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Dr. Z
        Hrgoivc can use his jab well, but hasn't in most fights. In addition to being 6'6" with an 82" reach 245 pounds, he has fast feet and pretty fast hands. He hits hard but what is special about him, and it's a rarity among heavyweights is he has a great chin. He has never been down as an amateur or pro and taken some flush punches without knees buckling or being close to going down. When hit he continues his attack and has the type of style that forces the other man to be defensive or fight back at most points of the round. He can be countered back he's very aggressive but he's got the chin to take it. He's not just a head hunter. He has a good body shot too. I see the next heavyweight champion in him.
        You make a good case for flip winning. Zhang has too many 1st round kos, where I don't think he learnt much from. So the 25 fights might be misleading

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          #14
          Originally posted by Dr. Z
          Hrgoivc can use his jab well, but hasn't in most fights. In addition to being 6'6" with an 82" reach 245 pounds, he has fast feet and pretty fast hands. He hits hard but what is special about him, and it's a rarity among heavyweights is he has a great chin. He has never been down as an amateur or pro and taken some flush punches without knees buckling or being close to going down. When hit he continues his attack and has the type of style that forces the other man to be defensive or fight back at most points of the round. He can be countered back he's very aggressive but he's got the chin to take it. He's not just a head hunter. He has a good body shot too. I see the next heavyweight champion in him.
          Hrgovic's feet are slow as ****. Fury and Usyk box laps around that boy purely based on this factor.

          From what I have seen, his defence is completely lacklustre. Perhaps because he cannot get up for the bums put across him thus far or maybe his skills have simply declined?

          Regardless, he is a hypejob and not the ATG-level HW that was promised. We should be skeptical of any HW that gets REDEEMER's backing

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            #15
            Originally posted by Good ol' Douglas

            Hrgovic's feet are slow as ****. Fury and Usyk box laps around that boy purely based on this factor.

            From what I have seen, his defence is completely lacklustre. Perhaps because he cannot get up for the bums put across him thus far or maybe his skills have simply declined?

            Regardless, he is a hypejob and not the ATG-level HW that was promised. We should be skeptical of any HW that gets REDEEMER's backing
            I backed Fury 4 times over Wilder and Whyte ,the only time I didn’t back him was his lucky win over Wallin . He should have two losses on his record . I guess we’ll have to back him again considering he’s looking to make a mockery of himself against Thor or Chisora ?
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-10-2022, 10:21 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by REDEEMER

              I backed Fury 4 times over Wilder and Whyte ,the only time I didn’t back him was his lucky win over Wallin . He should have two losses on his record . I guess we’ll have to back him again considering he’s looking to make a mockery of himself against Thor or Chisora ?
              Hrgovic has made a career of fighting Thor-level HWs. Keep that same energy, mate.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Good ol' Douglas

                Hrgovic has made a career of fighting Thor-level HWs. Keep that same energy, mate.
                Hrgovic has never struggled against guys like McDermott like Fury has ,as a under 20 fight fighter he makesFury look like an amateur like Wallin was doing in spot’s simply by aggressive boxing . Hrgovic is fighting for a title eliminator in his 15th fight who was Fury fighting for a title fight ? Same energy right ?
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-10-2022, 10:29 AM.

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                  #18
                  Hrgovic's defense depends a lot on his height and reach. He has a habit now of simply leaning back out of reach. Zhang doesn't have a lot going for him but he has got a sneaky straight left and it's a lights out type punch.

                  So I guess what I'm saying is, There's a chance.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hugh grant

                    You make a good case for flip winning. Zhang has too many 1st round kos, where I don't think he learnt much from. So the 25 fights might be misleading
                    Well, I'm the who predicted Wlad would be among the greats at Heavyweight, before he did much as a pro, remember? Hrgovic has already beaten four undefeated professionals fighters, Zhang will be the 5th. I've been watching him since he was robbed in the Rio Olympics . I thought he was the best heavyweight prospect then, and nothing has changed now expect he's better. He absolutely savages guys in the gym, like he did with Haye causing a nasty cut, and he did with Wilder as a young man taking his best, standing up to him and unloading. He only failed to put one man down, in al 14 pro fights, and it wasn't a ten round or more variety. Dr Z for CBZ/ESB says hello to HE Grant.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER

                      Hrgovic has never struggled against guys like McDermott like Fury has ,as a under 20 fight fighter he makesFury look like an amateur like Wallin was doing in spot’s simply by aggressive boxing . Hrgovic is fighting for a title eliminator in his 15th fight who was Fury fighting for a title fight ? Same energy right ?
                      He was knocked down by two men one who was an unknown Euro fighter, the other a washed up old cruiser weight! And then he was down 4x vs Wilder. Now you know why Fury's is looking for a third fight with the old Chisora.
                      Last edited by Dr. Z; 08-10-2022, 02:24 PM.

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