Usyk went from underrated to overrated in a short time.

[Good ol' Douglas]

I'd also argue fury is better as well.

I've seen fury fight in various different styles and adapt on the fly a lot more.

Usyk is the same in every fight

Fury is the most versatile boxer in the sport. Only Crawford can compare in this regard. But that does not necessarily make someone "better".

A southpaw on the level of Usyk is historically unprecedented at HW. The basis for the pre-00s ATGs destroying him who have minimal, if any, experience against far lower level southpaws is asinine.

[Silence]

Midget, bodybuilder... How old are you?

So hard to talk to trolls.

You love Fury, we get it. Hopefully he fights the winner.

Fury is the only HW worth being a fan of.

[hhh1200]

As I said, it's all in the name. It's like comparing Parker 168 to Janibek 160. Andrade stays on vacation and passes on a Parker fight b/c Canelo gets an 18-month pass by the WBO so he doesn't have to fight the winner. Andrade says, hell to the no and not one pin drop from the fanboys. The GREAT Janibek which DAZN called a nobody becomes mandatory and Andrade says, hell to the no, and now all of a sudden his whole career and the Olympics depend on fighting the GREAT Janibek who literally has a couple of nobodies on his resume he couldn't stop..

It's all in the name - Central Asian or Eastern European.

Usyk is ok but I wonder what would be said if his name was Campbell from Essex.

[ELPacman]

I think Usyk's heavyweight run is a second career for him where he already dominated at CW. That alone rates him high. The fact that he did some water testing heayweight fights where he looked less impressive but still got the "W", to then go and dominate the champ cannot be ignored.

Some people around here just want to find reasons to hate success. I'm not trying to overrate Usyk but you shouldn't ignore his accomplishments just because.

[M312]

Fury is the only HW worth being a fan of.

It's boxing, not Love Island mate.

[hugh grant]

Yes, I gotta agree usyk is overrated if everyone thinks he beats Josh in rematch. If it was considered a 50/50 fight now that would be realistic but it must be about 75/25 in favour of usyk which is overating

[QueensburyRules]

I liked him before the first bodybuilder fight. He was underrated. I rooted for him. He is typical p4p top 10 level fighter. He is skilled relatively to his size.

But, he is very overrated right now. Bodybuilder was jabbing his ears off and landed some good shots by baiting him. Way past prime gatekeeper Chisora won legit 4 rounds. Usyk is skilled but not that special. He gets hit with ease.

Lewis, Vitali and Wlad would whoop him. Holyfield and Tyson would have a legit chance despite their small frame. Bowe could maul him inside. Fury will beat him badly.

His opposition is also funny. Inoue, Crawford and Canelo are much more skilled fighters than him. They would murder Joshua at the same natural weight class in a few rounds. Or, Chisora.. Just think these guys against way past prime Chisora at the same weight size.. Legit murder. He shouldn't even be top 5 p4p let alone p4p king.

As a conclusion, he is great fighter at CW and good fighter at HW. He was underrated and hadn't big fan base until 2 IQ idiots started to defend him by BS arguments.

- - How many x U gonna add er to dummer?

[N/A]

Usyk is indeed a great example of talent, that is not something to question. But there are some things to consider as to why he is overrated and not so great. He is the size of a heavyweight, yet he went cruiser for most of his career to have the size advantage. He really has a pathetic glass body - he is the fighter who complained the most and way too often from low blows every time he got hit on the body, so he either is a real *hit when it comes to body punches or he is a vile cheater, faking those the same way football players overreact.

The man didn't win over Briedis, this was a draw. Now he lost to an inferior fighter in the face of Dubois where we faced one of the greatest examples of incompetence, corruption and propaganda (I mean the whole event) in one.

Saying this man is anywhere near the greatest fighters with this questionable resume is a poor assessment. Even if there are no controversies with him, he barely has 21 pro fights. And don't even come with the P4P argument, that is so an id*otic thing to rank.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Boxrec has Usyk 1, AJ 2, and Blubber 3, and I agree.

BoxRec: Ratings

Absent the top 2, Hvy has become a weak, aging division, and Usyk and AJ will be retiring in a couple of years leaving HVY the weakest division in boxing.

[Silence]

Who bumped TS? Lol.

Anyway, Dubois fight showed that it's murder reason to compare this idiot with Canelo, Inoue and Crawford level chameleon talents. My thoughts didn't chance, reversely became more obvious.