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  • Rodtang
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    I understand what you're saying but didn't they strip Chris Colbert of that secondary title, and order him to fight Gutierrez? Then Gutierrez got sick, and Garcia stepped in, and whooped my man Colbert like he stole something! With that win, is Hector Garcia recognized as the "Regular" champion? Nope! So when Wood won, why did he assume the title of "Regular?" That's not a Haymon fighter. Why is Ryad Merhy a CW "Regular" Champion? Is he a Haymon fighter? Then this happens just recently:

    Daniel Dubois Blasts Out Trevor Bryan in Four, Captures WBA Title
    June 11, 2022

    Daniel Dubois didn’t waste any more time after waiting nearly a year for this opportunity. The heavy-handed Brit claimed the secondary version of the WBA heavyw


    Why did he assume a secondary title, but Hector Garcia didn't? DuBois is not a Haymon fighter, and neither was Bryan! So I think the bigger problem is the WBA, not Al Haymon!






    No sorry pal, but I think your getting some of the regular and interims mixed up. Chris Colbert ( who I like also, although questionable shorts lol ) was an interim holder. All interims were removed but they retained mandatory status to the regulars. Gutierrez was the regular champ, but became thee one and only WBA champ in the division, when Gervonta vacated the Super. So Gutierrez v Colbert was ordered, and then Garcia threw a spanner in the works. I was disappointed at that also. Garcia now gets the shot. Wood was offered a shot at Xu, which was a voluntary defence of Xu,s regular belt, so Wood became regular champ. He was ordered to fight Conlan, who was the interim, and it was removed like Colbert's was. I can't comment on the cruiserweight situation. Only that, similar to LSC, Goulimarian has been inactive for a couple of years, and he's also been ordered to defend against Merhy or be stripped. Dubois fought for the secondary title as the holder was Bryan. Again, he was in the same position as both Colbert and Conlan. An interim champ with title removed, but with mandatory status to the regular. The reason Garcia didn't get a belt, is because there was no belt on the line. He was a late replacement to give Colbert a fight and save a show, and it went wrong. That fight didn't have to happen but they took a gamble. But Garcia inherits Colbert's mandatory status and is now scheduled to get his shot.

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    • Bronx2245
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      #42
      Originally posted by Rodtang

      No sorry pal, but I think your getting some of the regular and interims mixed up. Chris Colbert ( who I like also, although questionable shorts lol ) was an interim holder. All interims were removed but they retained mandatory status to the regulars. Gutierrez was the regular champ, but became thee one and only WBA champ in the division, when Gervonta vacated the Super. So Gutierrez v Colbert was ordered, and then Garcia threw a spanner in the works. I was disappointed at that also. Garcia now gets the shot. Wood was offered a shot at Xu, which was a voluntary defence of Xu,s regular belt, so Wood became regular champ. He was ordered to fight Conlan, who was the interim, and it was removed like Colbert's was. I can't comment on the cruiserweight situation. Only that, similar to LSC, Goulimarian has been inactive for a couple of years, and he's also been ordered to defend against Merhy or be stripped. Dubois fought for the secondary title as the holder was Bryan. Again, he was in the same position as both Colbert and Conlan. An interim champ with title removed, but with mandatory status to the regular. The reason Garcia didn't get a belt, is because there was no belt on the line. He was a late replacement to give Colbert a fight and save a show, and it went wrong. That fight didn't have to happen but they took a gamble. But Garcia inherits Colbert's mandatory status and is now scheduled to get his shot.
      Thanks for the clarification, however your clarification amplifies my problem with the WBA! There should never be, never should have been Interims, Regulars, and Super Champions, all at one weight class! They acknowledge the problem, but keep repeating it. Like I showed you, DuBois just won a "regular" title in June 2022, when they stated the were trying to eliminate these titles in 2021. DuBois is not a Haymon fighter, so you can't blame him!

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        #43
        Originally posted by Mammoth

        Oh, you're one of those....
        What, one of those that sees it for what it is?

        Why, what would you call it over at PBC? Do they make their own decisions? If so, they're cowards. If they don't, then they're like ****** being controlled for the benefit of Haymon.

        What other way is there to see this?

        Why wouldn't Leo want to match his biggest payday for Wood? Who would turn that down?

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          #44
          Originally posted by DClefthook

          Yes he's one of those. But don't worry because when 2023 comes around there will finally be no more Hearn / Hearn-o-maniacs / MR / DAZN in America. They are down to their last one or two Canelo fights and then it's off to PBC for the rest of redhead's career. If Oscar can't get Tank, Boots or Jermall to fight his only 3 fighters of note on DAZN this year then the plugged will be pulled on him as well. GBP will be forced over to Showtime andthen hopefully Al, Bob and Oscar will finally realize that if they work together more often they can do something really special with the sport and never allow a foreign entity to come over here again and "takeover". Fuqing clowns!
          Eddie is Matchroom, DAZN is just the platform. If DAZN goes under, Matchroom still exist.

          But you've been saying this madness from the start. And look, you're still obsessing and making a fool out of yourself. Eddie and DAZN have conquered you. Big time.

          Just sit back and watch while PBC and their pathetic worthless fights don't get any more backers to be ripped off. Haymon will then walk with the money he's made from idiots. I'll then come and find you to have a good laugh about it while Matchroom go strong.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Mammoth

            I don't hate Matchroom or DAZN. I think boxing is spread too thin and the sport suffers for it. Not really picking sides because that's where all the wackos and irrational **** riders are. And that's kinda what you're coming across as right now as well.

            Leigh Wood went the WBA route. His promotional company doesn't get along with LSC's promotional company so this was always going to purse bid. 75% in favor of the champion per WBA rules. If I know that then they should know that. Can't cry foul if you know what you're getting into.
            Leo shouldn't even have any version of the WBA title though. It's illegal him having it. It goes against the rules of the WBA. He hasn't defended the belt for over 3 and a half years. It will be 4 years by the time a defence will come about. It's clear the WBA are being paid to give only 25% to Wood to get rid of him. Wood would earn a lot less than his last two fights. How does that make any sense? It doesn't. It's corruption.

            What reason do you have for defending this? It goes against logic. But you say you don't have any hate or bitterness?

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              #46
              Originally posted by filup79
              Hearn was trying to get his fighters upgrade without having to fight for it. They thought Leo wouldn't want to fight Wood and the WBA would have stripped him and upgraded Wood to full champion. They never expected Leo to agree to the fight and the purse bid. Hearn is always trying to get his fighters vacant belts
              Actually, both Eddie and Wood want the Cruz fight.

              Which fighters have got vacant belts? Wood beat Can for the regular title. It wasn't vacant. Now look at PBC and other promoters in the US and tell me how many vacant titles were on offer?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                What, one of those that sees it for what it is?

                Why, what would you call it over at PBC? Do they make their own decisions? If so, they're cowards. If they don't, then they're like ****** being controlled for the benefit of Haymon.

                What other way is there to see this?

                Why wouldn't Leo want to match his biggest payday for Wood? Who would turn that down?
                You know what Leo would make..... how exactly?

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                • Bing_
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                  #48
                  Warrington v Wood would pay Wood a lot more for a similar level opponent for a world title shot so I’d imagine Wood goes down that route.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                    Leo shouldn't even have any version of the WBA title though. It's illegal him having it. It goes against the rules of the WBA. He hasn't defended the belt for over 3 and a half years. It will be 4 years by the time a defence will come about. It's clear the WBA are being paid to give only 25% to Wood to get rid of him. Wood would earn a lot less than his last two fights. How does that make any sense? It doesn't. It's corruption.

                    What reason do you have for defending this? It goes against logic. But you say you don't have any hate or bitterness?
                    LSC should have benn stripped, I agree but that's beyond my control.

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                    • Sid-Knee
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      I rhink you're missing the "big picture." If Mendoza is simply a puppet of Al Haymon, then why did they crown Wood with a secondary title LAST AUGUST? They were supposed to doing away with secondary titles, yet they created another one! Neither Xu Can, nor Wood are PBC fighters! They made Tank give away his title @ 140, and stripped Colbert of his secondary title too. The problem is the WBA, and the secondary titles! The WBA (Mendoza) is the disease. Haymon is just a symptom!
                      They should have ordered Can vs Cruz. But with Cruz being unavailable, Can should have been upgraded to full WBA champion.

                      Cruz hasn't defended the title in over 3 and a half years. He shouldn't really have any version of the title. He should have been stripped long ago.

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