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Last edited by P4P Forever; 08-07-2022, 02:44 AM.
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Originally posted by P4P Forever View Post
Boots should keep calling everyone out, stay busy. Thruman don't want that work or that's a fight that could be made. Spence got to fight someone and Crawford fight looking less lightly. This low and slow **** is litterly killing boxing. Crawford growing old not fighting leaving money and opertunity on the table.it's messing everything up. Low and slow is fine for Olympic curling, knitting, Yes I like My brisket low and slow for 18 hrs not 18 months. Boxing Fast dynamic cracking, not low and slow. PBC got all the fights at 147-154. I'm guessing they have a problem making meaningful flights regardless. Nobodys buying there ppv anymore or they would be making them. They make more money with TV content there's no quality control. They may get forced to take a mando. They may talk about making a big fight but they won't. Your not going to get the match up you want to see. Far from it. Boxing a big mess a dying fast. Google (Welterweight) it comes up UFC not boxing. UFC just made a bunch of big fights in the last month. They don't sit around spinning bunch of ego. dropping names that they never plan on fighting. Publicly acting like premadonnas pretending a fights so difficult to make as they avoid any match up that has danger. Make unreasonable demands and basically sit on the sidelines for most of the year. There are no stars cus no one in PBC steps up outside the safety bubble of PBC. So impossible to make a fights. Im kind of over it don't have any hope for boxing. Enis just latest example of someone who maybe be a ligit star but can't get the big fights he needs ppl want to see.
The problem with Boxing is that, unlike the UFC, there are multiple promoters, and multiple networks! Dana basically has very little competition, like the NFL! That will never happen in Boxing! That's a gift and a curse! When promoters like Bob & King had a monopoly on the game, what did they do with that? Rob their fighters, underpay fighters, and fix fights! Now that more promoters got in the game, Boxers have more freedom, more money, more power! However, when Boxers overestimate their value, we get the situations like Spence vs. Crawford! I just wish the ABCs would be more helpful. Force fighters to defend their belts, or unify! Don't give them years to make a decision, i.e. LSC! Don't create multiple champions in one weight class, i.e, "Franchise," "Regular'" and "Super!" As far as i'm concerned, you win a title, you have 6 months to fight the mandatory, unify, or be stripped! I think that would go a long way into giving the fans what they want. The fans need to do their part too! STOP supporting fights you don't wanna see! Tank and KingRy are massive draws, but ain't fighting the fights we want, but I still see packed stadiums! That's on us, and if we keep coming, keep buying, keep subscribing, then we have no one to blame but ourselves!
Last edited by Bronx2245; 08-07-2022, 09:53 AM.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostI understand your frustration, but I disagree with your statement that "they don't make meaningful fights." We just had Canelo vs. Plant for Undisputed @ 168. We just had Charlo vs. Castano II, for Undisputed @ 154. Fury vs. Wilder wasn't that long ago! Spence and Crawford are definitely creating a mess @ 147, but I believe we will get it in 2023, and news that we might get Boots vs. Stanionis has me very excited! The person I have a BIG problem with is Jermall Charlo! Charlo vs. Benavidez should be a no-brainer! I want that fight more than Canelo vs. GGG III, and Tank vs. Garcia, but it won't make as much money than either one of them! However that's no excuse to not make it happen!
The problem with Boxing is that, unlike the UFC, there are multiple promoters, and multiple networks! Dana basically has very little competition, like the NFL! That will never happen in Boxing! That's a gift and a curse! When promoters like Bob & King had a monopoly on the game, what did they do with that? Rob their fighters, underpay fighters, and fix fights! Now that more promoters got in the game, Boxers have more freedom, more money, more power! However, when Boxers overestimate their value, we get the situations like Spence vs. Crawford! I just wish the ABCs would be more helpful. Force fighters to defend their belts, or unify! Don't give them years to make a decision, i.e. LSC! Don't create multiple champions in one weight class, i.e, "Franchise," "Regular'" and "Super!" As far as i'm concerned, you win a title, you have 6 months to fight the mandatory, unify, or be stripped! I think that would go a long way into giving the fans what they want. The fans need to do their part too! STOP supporting fights you don't wanna see! Tank and KingRy are massive draws, but ain't fighting the fights we want, but I still see packed stadiums! That's on us, and if we keep coming, keep buying, keep subscribing, then we have no one to blame but ourselves!
Burlanga get beat by everyone I mentioned here. I see 154 getting more crowded in the near future. Let's see how much longer Crawford chases Spence. Hes not getting any younger and I'm not so sure that fight gets made. His case against Bobfather is going to court shortly. I don't think fighters are actually making more money. Holyfeild Tyson were making 30m a fight on the bigger ones in early 90s. That's like 60m+ now. Floyd Pac and few others maybe making more. Maybe. Most no. AJ is the guy who makes the money. Hearn has done him well in that regard. His payouts are the largest I believe I've seen. Fury makes money. Wilder could of signed for $100m but stayed loyal to PBC. His purses been lower then they could of been. Guessing hell be paid well in the future if he gets it together. UFC is completely different situation then ABCs and promoter's. Dana and UFC pay fighters nothing, chump change. Yet make the best biggest fights they can over and over in short time. There light years ahead in that regard! Not even remotely close.
Bob and King had it locked down, yet did do fights together. They obviously had different mangement styles, attracted different types of fighters. I don't know how DK still has a license in this day and age. Or how the ABCs manage to have so many belts and sub champs. Let alone the rankings. The sanctioning fees. Wbc doesn't what unifications I remember reading a article about that. They sure messed it all up. WBA be sued and investigated currently. Ironically there moving there HQ to America. Houston, this month?
Its kind of crazy that TX has big fights every month the way Vegas used to. I see packed areas for big fights. Spence can pack Tx yes. D I don't see Promotors booking Allegiant Stadium tho. Obviously the gate is priced accordingly.
DSG vs Benavidaz peeked at 500k If I remember right. Can't make stars if no one sees them. That Wood sitution caught my eye. LSC I'm scratching my head. GR Jr been scratching my head for years seem like a real waste. He sure talking a lot of **** for guy who was so quiet for years. Hella salty, not that I completely blame him but man 7 fights in 7 years with a belt the whole time. Kind of odd and wasteful for a guy with skills. See what weight he fights at next. Guess that a year away. Mares coming back, I wish he wouldn't. Crystal ball says Danger will RogersLast edited by P4P Forever; 08-08-2022, 03:49 AM.
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