Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Feels Joshua Will Be Better Off If He Cuts Down Muscle Mass

[Dakuwaqa]

Joshua needs to just train, and whatever weight he is? That should be his weight.

That ultimately should be a heavyweights attitude to training.

Joshua since he has been obsessing over his weight, has actually gone backwards.

Joshua at 250 pounds vs Kiltschko, had greater endurance, durability and punching power than this current version.

Whenever Joshua gets in and around 240 pounds and under, everything goes backwards.

This is a statistical observation I have made. And it is always right.

How can 10-15 of additional muscle improve hisendurance?

[PRINCEKOOL]

How can 10-15 of additional muscle improve hisendurance?

Go and check his fights mate. Anthony Joshua's endurance was superior in all of his fights he was heavier.

Training improves endurance, and hitting targets. I would imagine, that was why at the higher weights he was a better fighter.

Since Joshua has dropped weight, it is a fact that his durability, endurance and punching power have all gone backwards.

Whenever Joshua starts getting close to 240 pounds and under, his strength, durability, endurance and punching power all go backwards dramatically.

You are asking me a question, all you need to do is look at Joshua's fights.

I am not saying Joshua needs to be 250 pounds. But Kiltschko vs Joshua was a high intensity fight, and one of the reasons Joshua won that fight was his durability and endurance.

Wilder vs Fury III both fighters were in a absolute state from round 2 on wards. And nobody is telling Fury to drop weight.

I honestly think their are ulterior motives behind all these people constantly criticizing Joshua's physique.

If you are not a big bloon these days at heavyweight, you are ether going to be accused of performances enhancing drugs or people will make a issue with your conditioning.

[PRINCEKOOL]

All these fighters from the lower weight divisions, also need to keep their mouths shut on advising Heavyweights.

Andre Ward most likely used to weight drain himself, so he needs to shut up.

Anthony Joshua is a heavyweight, and if he is to listen to any fighters? It should be other Heavyweights. Only certain lower weight fighters like Carl Froch, I think gives good advice in these circumstances 'As he was never a fighter who weight drained himself'.

Never before in the history of boxing, have I seen a supremely conditioned athlete targeted so much for his physique.

And I honestly think the targeting has ulterior motives. If you are a not a big booze drinking bloon these days in heavyweight boxing? You will be accused of performance enhancing drugs or somebody will make a issue with your conditioning 'Anthony Joshua does not fit the script, neither did David Haye'.

There is no lack of discipline from Anthony Joshua. And it is not his fault that naturally he is not gifted with elite level endurance. But still he has been in tough fights, and his conditioning has won him those fights.

Kiltschko vs Joshua was a higher intensity fight than all of Fury fights vs Wilder. That is a fact, go and watch the fights.

Tyson Fury is in a absolute state in those fights, all of them 'Even the second fight' a complete and utter mess. So why is nobody telling Tyson Fury that he is better off dropping 50 pounds of whatever? I don't think Fury's conditioning is supreme, and his endurance is completely overrated.

There is a reason why he is retired, a reason why he is hiding away and not taking on all comers.

[Toffee]

He doesn't need to lose or gain anything.

He's a heavyweight. He needs to train to optimal performance, not weight.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I tend to agree with Ward. He needs less mass to increase his speed and pick up his dexterity.

No.

Usain Bolt gained 1- 2 stone in weight and became faster.

Losing weight does not equate to having greater speed, or endurance.

It is training and hitting targets which improves the components of fitness.

Anthony Joshua has had more impressive performances at higher weights 'This is a fact'.

Show me a fight, where Joshua has displayed greater endurance, durability and punching power than his fight vs Kiltschko?

Somebody quote me and show me the fight. The fight does not exist.

Note: The issue we have here in the boxing community, is that you have bloons giving out advice.

Bloons don't understand physiology, and they have no idea about science.

MONGOOSE66, does Tyson Fury need to lose weight mate? Is his endurance and dexterity really that great?

Where is the proof in this? Wilder was all over the place in terms of movement, and Whyte could hardly move etc.

[1hourRun]

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[Zaroku]

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[PRINCEKOOL]

How can 10-15 of additional muscle improve hisendurance?

10 to 15 pounds of highly trained muscle mass, has a better chance at improving endurance than excess Bloon. There are many sports where athletes get bigger, stronger and faster as apart of their training. NFL, Basketball, Track and Field athletics, Rugby, the list goes on.

Is Tyson Fury at 270 pounds, with a extra 20 pounds of non-functional completely useless Bloon. Is Fury at this weight faster and does he have more endurance than when he was 248 pounds vs Kiltschcko? No.

So why is nobody calling for Tyson Fury to drop weight? Why is nobody in boxing criticizing Tyson Fury? The man is clearly not in peak condition.

Even though Fury looked like a completely mess in his last two fights? Wilder vs Fury III was a exciting fight, but when you analyse the action both fighters were a mess. Wilder could not properly carry his own weight, and was not functional at the weight. And Tyson Fury was all over the place, stumbling about, being clumsy and was just a mess.

Seriously what on earth is going on with this thread? What on earth is going on in boxing?

There are ulterior motives to all the people who are criticizing Anthony Joshua. Joshua has never been out of condition, he is always in condition.

Joshua is not a endurance based fighter, but that does not mean their is something innately wrong with his physique. Mike Tyson, David Haye, these are fighters who were not endurance based athletes, they are more explosive and speed predominant 'This is just the make up of specific fighters'.

[Boxfan83]

Usyk is a nightmare style for any HW that employs the straight 1-2, Usyks head is rarely on line. If Joshua goes forward he's likely going to walk into something. Maybe cutting some muscle will help him be lighter to counter stepping back.

[ippo]

No.

Usain Bolt gained 1- 2 stone in weight and became faster.

Losing weight does not equate to having greater speed, or endurance.

It is training and hitting targets which improves the components of fitness.

Anthony Joshua has had more impressive performances at higher weights 'This is a fact'.

Show me a fight, where Joshua has displayed greater endurance, durability and punching power than his fight vs Kiltschko?

Somebody quote me and show me the fight. The fight does not exist.

Note: The issue we have here in the boxing community, is that you have bloons giving out advice.

Bloons don't understand physiology, and they have no idea about science.

MONGOOSE66, does Tyson Fury need to lose weight mate? Is his endurance and dexterity really that great?

Where is the proof in this? Wilder was all over the place in terms of movement, and Whyte could hardly move etc.

He just needs to focus his training on endurance and speed and strategy and not on weight loss. Everyone's body has an optimum weight and his is higher, a lower weight might lower his punch resistance.