Boxing is fundamentally flawed at a financial and business level

[elfag]

Boxing is fundamentally flawed at a financial and business level if everyone involved makes more money from the top two guys in a division fighting tomato cans and has beens than fighting each other.

What if the NFL never had a superbowl but the top teams were matched against weaker teams and tried to stay undefeated all season and never played the other top teams and that somehow made more money for the organization than having playoffs and a superbowl? do you realize how ***ing retarrded that sounds but that is how boxing is run.

[elfag]

It just doesnt make sense, how is there so much money around to feed a has been to Crawford or GGG and sign these huge contracts? and why are the big fights so hard to make?

[War Room]

Boxing is fundamentally flawed at a financial and business level if everyone involved makes more money from the top two guys in a division fighting tomato cans and has beens than fighting each other.

What if the NFL never had a superbowl but the top teams were matched against weaker teams and tried to stay undefeated all season and never played the other top teams and that somehow made more money for the organization than having playoffs and a superbowl? do you realize how ***ing retarrded that sounds but that is how boxing is run.

Football is way less dangerous, a lot easier, a season is ~17 games, teams make 330m to 800m in revenue per season, in 2019 the entire NFL created 15b in total revenue, and the most economically powerful sports league in the world.

In boxing, the market size measured by revenue of the Boxing Promoters industry is $438.6m for 2022. Boxers entire career is ~45 fights in 14-20 years.

Basically the entire sport of boxing isworth the revenue of the LA Rams for just 2020.

Hardly a valid comparison.

[elfag]

Football is way less dangerous, a lot easier, a season is ~17 games, teams make 330m to 800m in revenue per season, in 2019 the entire NFL created 15b in total revenue, and the most economically powerful sports league in the world.

In boxing, the market size measured by revenue of the Boxing Promoters industry is $438.6m for 2022. Boxers entire career is ~45 fights in 14-20 years.

Basically the entire sport of boxing isworth the revenue of the LA Rams for just 2020.

Hardly a valid comparison.

??? Im not saying who is worth more? of course its worth less money everyone knows that.

I'm saying from a business perspective it is flawed when we cant match up the best fighters and somehow there isnt enough money to make the top fights but they rather feed them steady bums and that makes more money. If you compare any other sports doing the same thing its absurd.

Imagine NASCAR where they have one guy with the best car and he races guys way below his level and all the top drivers have separate races and wont race each other. Any other sport it sounds ****** as *** but its what they do in boxing.

[Hustle]

Nfl is a league. All teams are under one league. Everybody has the same agenda. Win the superbowl

Boxing is an independent sport. Everybody has there own agenda

Apples and oranges

[4truth]

Nfl is a league. All teams are under one league. Everybody has the same agenda. Win the superbowl

Boxing is an independent sport. Everybody has there own agenda

Apples and oranges

that's actually the problem. there is no working mechanism in place to establish the best fighter at any weight. Leagues have that

[Willie Pep 229]

that's actually the problem. there is no working mechanism in place to establish the best fighter at any weight. Leagues have that

Boxing leagues are unrealistic. While it does solve some of the problems suggested we can't expect a fighter to fight on a predetermined schedule. The fight game is just too brutal for that.

If you get beat up week after week in the NBA you go home with your tail between your legs and feel embarrassed -- lose month after month in a boxing league and you become permanently damaged goods.

The problem with big fights not making, whether because of ducks, money, or politics, is a prize fighting tradition. It took Fitzsimmons three years to get Corbett into the ring, then no rematch; it took Jeffries three years to get Fitzsimmons into the rimg. (At least Jeffries was man enough to give Fitz a rematch.) That was very early into the game's history.

While scantioning bodies are theives who steal from fighters and block competive bouts, these problems existed even before the bodies existed.

IMHO The game is just too brutal to make fighters fight unwanted bouts. We take what we can get from these men.

I think the only thing we can do is boycott the mismatches.

Or possibly give State Commissions the power to block mismatches. But hating government intervention is the current 'hate' that drives politics and gets you votes, so that isn't coming anytime soon. Besides G regulations that block fights will probably offend all kinds of constitutional liberty rights, e.g. restraint of trade.

P.S. UfC is technically a league. How do they manage their obligatory bouts? Do they force obligatory bouts?

[elfag]

Nfl is a league. All teams are under one league. Everybody has the same agenda. Win the superbowl

Boxing is an independent sport. Everybody has there own agenda

Apples and oranges

Yeah and their agenda will not align with fans desires. Its absurd that somehow its more profitable for people to fight bums or overmatched opponents than take the risks.

[elfag]

Boxing leagues are unrealistic. While it does solve some of the problems suggested we can't expect a fighter to fight on a predetermined schedule. The fight game is just too brutal for that.

If you get beat up week after week in the NBA you go home with your tail between your legs and feel embarrassed -- lose month after month in a boxing league and you become permanently damaged goods.

The problem with big fights not making, whether because of ducks, money, or politics, is a prize fighting tradition. It took Fitzsimmons three years to get Corbett into the ring, then no rematch; it took Jeffries three years to get Fitzsimmons into the rimg. (At least Jeffries was man enough to give Fitz a rematch.) That was very early into the game's history.

While scantioning bodies are theives who steal from fighters and block competive bouts, these problems existed even before the bodies existed.

IMHO The game is just too brutal to make fighters fight unwanted bouts. We take what we can get from these men.

I think the only thing we can do is boycott the mismatches.

Or possibly give State Commissions the power to block mismatches. But hating government intervention is the current 'hate' that drives politics and gets you votes, so that isn't coming anytime soon. Besides G regulations that block fights will probably offend all kinds of constitutional liberty rights, e.g. restraint of trade.

P.S. UfC is technically a league. How do they manage their obligatory bouts? Do they force obligatory bouts?

Each promoter is in effect running their own league where those in house fights are favored and super easy to make and those happen most often while the fights the fans want take forever.

[War Room]

??? Im not saying who is worth more? of course its worth less money everyone knows that.

I'm saying from a business perspective it is flawed when we cant match up the best fighters and somehow there isnt enough money to make the top fights but they rather feed them steady bums and that makes more money. If you compare any other sports doing the same thing its absurd.

Imagine NASCAR where they have one guy with the best car and he races guys way below his level and all the top drivers have separate races and wont race each other. Any other sport it sounds ****** as *** but its what they do in boxing.

What I'm saying is you can't compare other sports, it's not a valid comparison due to the dynamics of boxing.

- Every other sport, you don't have an extreme high chance of dying on that night.
- Every other sport, you don't have ~45 lifetime competitions.
- Every other sport, you don't compete a few times a year.

See what I'm saying?