Even if JMM loses to Floyd, he will still be p4p #2

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  • Burner
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    #21
    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
    There is no risk in this fight for Marquez, besides his health. Win or lose, he has everyone's respect and would still deserve another fight with Pac. At 36, and jumping up TWO FULL WEIGHT CLASSES, he gets a free pass tonight, win or lose.
    HAHAHAHAHA Making ***** ass excuses already.

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      #22
      I'd still have him top 5 no doubt

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      • STEELHEAD
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        #23
        men i've been revisiting jmms fights all day.
        i'm telling you i realy feel if one or two things aren't right in the mayweather camp juanma's going to pull it off!

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        • SkillspayBills
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          #24
          And If Floyd wins you move him up no.......oh wait how can you move higher than sharing number 1 lol.

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          • Jiddu Dali
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            #25
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            Even if JMM loses to Floyd, he will still be p4p #2 IMHO. Usually if a p4p fighter loses, I drop them a few slots down or off the list completely if they get murked.

            BUT, the circumstances of the Floyd/JMM fight are so skewed in favor of Floyd, I won't drop JMM from his spot, even in the worst scenario (JMM gets brutally KTFO in round 1).
            the funny thing is, floyd is a lot closer to juans size, than he is to oscars size @54! but the people clamoring about floyd being bigger than juan, discredit him for fighting the much bigger oscar..

            its one thing to KO a guy thats a lb lighter than you.. lets see manny KO a guy 15 lbs heavier..

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            • Jiddu Dali
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              #26
              Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
              There is no risk in this fight for Marquez, besides his health. Win or lose, he has everyone's respect and would still deserve another fight with Pac. At 36, and jumping up TWO FULL WEIGHT CLASSES, he gets a free pass tonight, win or lose.
              FREE PASS?



              yeah ok

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              • Jiddu Dali
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                #27
                Originally posted by `STEELHEAD
                men i've been revisiting jmms fights all day.
                i'm telling you i realy feel if one or two things aren't right in the mayweather camp juanma's going to pull it off!
                im willing to bet floyd and marquez weigh within 5lbs of each other. manny weighed in at 142, and came in 149. i think juan will do about the same.. floyd doesnt blow up. he's always in great shape. he'll be about 150-151.. but like i said, size wont matter. he's just too fast and too good. i think juans better than manny, but manny has more natural athleticism that helps him at the higher weights.. he can get away with more risks cause he has more speed and explosive power.. if juan beats you, its cause he's better than you. if manny beats you, its cause either he's better than you OR he got lucky. and by lucky, i mean he has the kind of speed and power to land a clean shot and change the entire fight! thats why he has 2 wins on marquez now.

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                • Glamour Puss
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                  #28
                  *** this.

                  JMM won't lose bitches. You guys are about to find out why he's the greatest fighter of our time and space.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Burner
                    Doesnt ****ing matter...JMM took the fight knowing the risk..which means he risks his #2 spot...OBVIOUSLY.
                    nope, jmm thought floyd was gonna make 144 lbs. it wasn't until friday that they alerted jmm's camp that floyd couldn't / didn't wan to make weight.

                    Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                    um as far as the weight goes. floy NEVER SAID the fight was at 144. the media said it. juan knew days before the weigh in floyd wasnt gonna be 144.
                    doesn't matter. everyone expected floyd to be 144 lbs.

                    did you see floyd? the guy was shredded! we've never seen him that lean, and thats saying a lot! so obviously he took training seriously. ever think maybe he didnt have an extra 2lbs to cut??
                    he was drinking soda while he was training. I'm sure he if cut that out of his diet while he was training, he'd have cut teh 2 lbs.

                    maybe thats why he never signed for 144 in the first place? theres no exact science to making weight.
                    nah, he never intended to make 144 lbs. in all his interviews he said he was right on track w/ the weight. he was never gonna come in at 144 lbs.

                    i guess you would have rather him come in depleted and cheat the fans by giving a dela-hydrated performance, and and cut his career short.. that wouldve been the smarter thing, right??
                    but floyd stans have been telling us that floyd is a small WW and he can still make 140 lbs!

                    c'mon man.... floyd has destroyed all his excuses.

                    the funny thing is, anybody who knows boxing knows floyd isnt gonna beat juan because he's bigger. he's just better than juan.
                    how do we know if floyd isn't gonna make weight?
                    they couldve weighed in at 144, it wouldnt matter..
                    then why didn't floyd make weight if it didn't matter?

                    Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                    so if Mayweather weighed 144 Marquez would have more of a shot to win?
                    yes, mutha****a... the closer to 135 lbs floyd gets, the better jmm's chances of winning.

                    Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                    so since he isnt the Favorite to win, if he loses he should stay #2?

                    nice logic Einstein
                    jmm was a 5-1 underdog... that alot! if vegas oddsmakers knew floyd had no intention of making 144 lbs, jmm would be a 10-1 underdog

                    Originally posted by Burner
                    He asked for the fight..KNOWING the risk involved which means he risks his number 2 spot...boxing doesnt work like that.
                    nope. jmm didn't know floyd wasn't even going to attempt to make 144 lbs. he, like us all, assumed floyd was gonna try and make 144 lbs.

                    the unequal circumstances force me to give jmm an exception in this fight. this isn't a real fight. its an exhibition. its the same as when Ali fought that pro-wrestler.

                    Originally posted by Jiddu Dali
                    the funny thing is, floyd is a lot closer to juans size, than he is to oscars size @54! but the people clamoring about floyd being bigger than juan, discredit him for fighting the much bigger oscar..
                    the difference is that oscar wasn't prime and floyd was. and floyd didn't jump from 140 to 154 to fight dlh.

                    in this fight, floyd and jmm are both prime, but jmm is just way too small.

                    its one thing to KO a guy thats a lb lighter than you.. lets see manny KO a guy 15 lbs heavier..
                    wtf? how did pac get into this?

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                    • Burner
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                      #30
                      I got 140,000 k on Floyd..........


                      Ey to the cry baby thread starter...when Winky was p4p number 2 and Hopkins beat him at 170( 10 pounds heavy then where winky fights)...did winky drop down???

                      UMM YEAH.

                      He lost.

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