eubank jr v benn will be a huge event...

[Clegg]

yeah it could be fight of the year, have you watched either fighter fight before? its pretty much evens with the bookies, benn is ranked top 10 welterweight, eubank former world champ. you guys are acting like they are two bums. and whats funny on here is how much the UK 'fans' seem to trash there own boxers, no doubt fury was some bum after cunningham dropped him.

Eubank is a clear favourite on all betting sites Chris Eubank Jr vs Conor Benn Betting Odds | Oddschecker

I just described some of the problems with Eubank's performances and you couldn't disagree so gotta assume I have seen his fights. You describe him as a former world champ, is that the interim WBA title or the IBO?

I have defended a lot of UK fighters on here, including Eubank Sr and Nigel Benn but the sons of popular fighters usually get overrated and attract casuals no matter where they are from. Look at all the Chavez Jr fights we had to put up with. Hatton's son already needed a gift decision. Rahman Jr is getting the fight with Paul because of who his dad is. Notice a trend there?

In other sports you can't get away with it. If Ronaldo or Messi have sons who suck at football, they won't be playing at the highest level. Same for all the other sports. But in boxing you can cherry pick and use smoke and mirrors and fans care more about name recognition than skill so you can have a guy getting attention from the boxing media because he's Muhammad Ali's grandson.

[Madison Boxing]

Eubank is a clear favourite on all betting sites Chris Eubank Jr vs Conor Benn Betting Odds | Oddschecker

I just described some of the problems with Eubank's performances and you couldn't disagree so gotta assume I have seen his fights. You describe him as a former world champ, is that the interim WBA title or the IBO?

I have defended a lot of UK fighters on here, including Eubank Sr and Nigel Benn but the sons of popular fighters usually get overrated and attract casuals no matter where they are from. Look at all the Chavez Jr fights we had to put up with. Hatton's son already needed a gift decision. Rahman Jr is getting the fight with Paul because of who his dad is. Notice a trend there?

In other sports you can't get away with it. If Ronaldo or Messi have sons who suck at football, they won't be playing at the highest level. Same for all the other sports. But in boxing you can cherry pick and use smoke and mirrors and fans care more about name recognition than skill so you can have a guy getting attention from the boxing media because he's Muhammad Ali's grandson.

whats all your problem though... i cant remember if it was you directly but i remember others bitching and moaning saying how connor wont challenge himself, is protected, now he enters for a fight that he is underdog on people are bitching and moaning saying hes 'cashing out' whatever the **** thats supposed to mean.

[alexguiness]

Its an appealing fight from the history and personalities involved but...

WTF is Eubank Jnr trying to achieve? Looks like nothing more than a payday.

The guy is always telling anyone who listens that he is simply the best SMW talent out there who will fight anyone for a title?

Fighting a very green prospect who is at least 12 lbs under his chosen division.

I believe Eubank may have finally come to the realisation that he is, in fact, NOT world title level and never will be.

So make some money and retire without ever really beating anyone of note.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I think Benn moving up 2 weight classes makes no sense and devalues the fight more.

Meeting in the middle makes sense, Eubank will still be heat favourite and no belts on the line.

Fan of catch weights then are you?

Did Roy Jones vs John Ruiz Junior make sense at heavyweight, or do you think that fight should of been at Cruiser weight?

It is easier for a fighter to move up in weight, than to come down in weight. So by draining Eubank Junior, that automatically weakens the match up 'And devalues the fight'.

So you want to drain Eubank Junior, and strengthen Benn and you think this is a better fight? Lets be honest, that is complete and utter nonsense.

Benn is going to be a stronger fighter, at 160 because he will not be weight draining himself 'As all fighters seem to do these days'.

Be honest with yourself mate, and look at what you are saying. It is nonsense.

I am sure if the fight happens at whatever weight, it will be a big fight. But in genuine boxing circles, if the fight takes place at a catch weight 'The fight will be devalued'.

You already know this mate, you have seen it happen time and time again. Boxing fans, and fighters themselves use catch-weights as a excuse.

If you carry on with your stance in this debate, I will no longer respond. Because it is clearly obvious, that a catch weight will devalue the fight.

[hugh grant]

Eubanks talks Nell and ggg, so is lowering his standards. But it would be intriguing fight

[M312]

Fan of catch weights then are you?

Did Roy Jones vs John Ruiz Junior make sense at heavyweight, or do you think that fight should of been at Cruiser weight?

It is easier for a fighter to move up in weight, than to come down in weight. So by draining Eubank Junior, that automatically weakens the match up 'And devalues the fight'.

So you want to drain Eubank Junior, and strengthen Benn and you think this is a better fight? Lets be honest, that is complete and utter nonsense.

Benn is going to be a stronger fighter, at 160 because he will not be weight draining himself 'As all fighters seem to do these days'.

Be honest with yourself mate, and look at what you are saying. It is nonsense.

I am sure if the fight happens at whatever weight, it will be a big fight. But in genuine boxing circles, if the fight takes place at a catch weight 'The fight will be devalued'.

You already know this mate, you have seen it happen time and time again. Boxing fans, and fighters themselves use catch-weights as a excuse.

If you carry on with your stance in this debate, I will no longer respond. Because it is clearly obvious, that a catch weight will devalue the fight.

Why would RJJ/Ruiz fight at a catchweight? It was for a world title. The fight would've made zero sense at a catchweight, no title would've been on the line.

You can say what you want, but bookies don't like losing money and they got Eubank as a heavy favourite at this catchweight, as I'm sure most boxing experts would too (besides yourself of course )

My guess is if I looked back at your chat history it would be full of Benn hate?

A catchweight is as fair as it gets and almost all boxing experts will have Eubank as heavy favourite anyway.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Why would RJJ/Ruiz fight at a catchweight? It was for a world title. The fight would've made zero sense at a catchweight, no title would've been on the line.

You can say what you want, but bookies don't like losing money and they got Eubank as a heavy favourite at this catchweight, as I'm sure most boxing experts would too (besides yourself of course )

My guess is if I looked back at your chat history it would be full of Benn hate?

A catchweight is as fair as it gets and almost all boxing experts will have Eubank as heavy favourite anyway.

This interaction we have here, has nothing to do with the fighters,

It is about me, having a issue and disagreeing with your statement mate 'That is what this is all about'.

A catch weight will devalue the fight. You know this, the fighters know this, everyone in the boxing world knows this.

If this fight is at a catch weight. You watch how people use it as a excuse, or a reason to devalue the fight.

That is what will happen on this forum, and within certain sections of the boxing media.

I won't quote you again to remind you, or take satisfaction in being right. But I will tell you now, that is what will happen.

I have no idea why, you are ignoring the history of catch weights. Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar De La Hoya is not a higher value fight, than Mayweather Junior vs De La Hoya.

Oscar De La Hoya was wasted at 146 pounds, during that stage of his career. Nobody rates Pacquiao's win over Oscar De La Hoya as high as Mayweather's win.

Eubank Junior has been fighting at 168 pounds, then moved back down to 160 pounds. And he is very deep into his career.

If he is forced any lower, it is going to weaken him too much. This is commonsense.

The fight will still be a big event, but there will be many ways people can devalue the fight 'If it is at a catch weight'.

I have had my say on this subject. I am done with the thread.

[M312]

This interaction we have here, has nothing to do with the fighters,

It is about me, having a issue and disagreeing with your statement mate 'That is what this is all about'.

A catch weight will devalue the fight. You know this, the fighters know this, everyone in the boxing world knows this.

If this fight is at a catch weight. You watch how people use it as a excuse, or a reason to devalue the fight.

That is what will happen on this forum, and within certain sections of the boxing media.

I won't quote you again to remind you, or take satisfaction in being right. But I will tell you now, that is what will happen.

I have no idea why, you are ignoring the history of catch weights. Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar De La Hoya is not a higher value fight, than Mayweather Junior vs De La Hoya.

Oscar De La Hoya was wasted at 146 pounds, during that stage of his career. Nobody rates Pacquiao's win over Oscar De La Hoya as high as Mayweather's win.

Eubank Junior has been fighting at 168 pounds, then moved back down to 160 pounds. And he is very deep into his career.

If he is forced any lower, it is going to weaken him too much. This is commonsense.

The fight will still be a big event, but there will be many ways people can devalue the fight 'If it is at a catch weight'.

I have had my say on this subject. I am done with the thread.

Manny's obliteration of DLH was truly a special performance, as was Mayweathers win.

The better win is just splitting hairs.

Interestingly, just from your last two posts, I would be shocked if your post history had anything positive to say about either Benn and Manny.

I'm not a fan of catchweights, but when there's two divisions involved, meeting in the middle makes sense.

[Smash]

eubank jr is such a twat & beggar that i dont really like to see him get a big cash fight like this might be but on the other hand these two do have name value and family history together, benn should drop the fight for now & make it when he does eventually get to 154, it will always be there i think, let eubank beg someone else on his list

[JakeTheBoxer]

Nah I would prefer Benn to stay at 147. He is top 10 already, time to step up. It is too soon for Crawford and Spence, fine, ok, but fight Avanesyan, Crowley, Stanionis, even better Ennis or Ortiz jr.