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I never claimed to know exactly how much he got for all of his world title fights. Please stop lying.

You made the claim that Haymon was losing money on Wilder. When asked how you knew that, you refused to answer. Because you didn't actually know that and you were lying.

Haymon is Wilder's advisor and is paid a percentage of Wilder's purses. It's literally impossible for Haymon to lose money on Wilder.

Ah, you're playing the deflection tactic. Good one. That's new.

You should look up who was making money year on year, and who was losing money year on year. A bit of help here... Matchroom were the only ones in profit. Therefore, Haymon (PBC) were losing money. Why else do you think Espinoza didn't want the Wilder fights on Showtime? Because the money Wilder wanted didn't make any sense at all.

You claimed Wilder was getting paid more money than the 3 Mill offered to him for the Whyte fight. Well, tell me how you know this?

Tell me why Breazeal and Whyte shouldn't have had a date set for their mandatory fight?

[WBC WBA IBF]

Haymon (PBC) were losing money.

According to who?

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According to who?

You can research the yearly money going in and going out online.

Now tell me, how much was Wilder getting paid seen as you claim he was getting more than 3 Mill. He wasn't, there was no need to pay him more. And he sure as hell wasn't getting 7 Mill which he was offered the second time round.

Also, tell me why Breazeal vs Whyte wasn't set at a new date were both could prepare properly? Stop deflecting and avoiding the question. It's getting very boring.

[WBC WBA IBF]

You can research the yearly money going in and going out online.

Haymon Boxing is a private company and the amount of money going in and out isn't online. You made that up.

how much was Wilder getting paid seen as you claim he was getting more than 3 Mill.

Wilder's filed guarantee for the first Ortiz fight was over $2 million, so he was definitely getting more than $3 million. Wilder is self-promoted and his minimum guarantee would be a small part of his overall compensation for the fight.

tell me why Breazeal vs Whyte wasn't set at a new date were both could prepare properly?

Breazeale had already trained and had a signed contract for a final eliminator on that date. He was entitled to fight on that date against the leading available contender.

Whyte had a fight scheduled at the same time so he was properly prepared, he just didn't want the fight.

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Haymon Boxing is a private company and the amount of money going in and out isn't online. You made that up.




Wilder's filed guarantee for the first Ortiz fight was over $2 million, so he was definitely getting more than $3 million. Wilder is self-promoted and his minimum guarantee would be a small part of his overall compensation for the fight.




Breazeale had already trained and had a signed contract for a final eliminator on that date. He was entitled to fight on that date against the leading available contender.

Whyte had a fight scheduled at the same time so he was properly prepared, he just didn't want the fight.

Why would Wilder be getting more? He can't even sell tickets. Was he getting more than the 7 Mill he was offered the second time round?

The promoters Haymon uses are not private.

Breazeal wasn't guaranteed anything on THAT DATE. He was only guaranteed a right to fight for mandatory. There is no excuse to why he fought Molina for mandatory. It was a Haymon setup, nothing more. Haymon has the corrupt WBC and WBA in his pocket. We both know this. Don't we?

[WBC WBA IBF]

Why would Wilder be getting more?

Because no top fighter files their true compensation unless it's a purse bid.

Was he getting more than the 7 Mill he was offered the second time round?

By the time Hearn offered 7 million, Wilder already had an offer to fight Fury for 14 million. Why would Wilder go overseas to fight for an enemy promoter for half the money he made fighting at home for a friendly promoter?

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Because no top fighter files their true compensation unless it's a purse bid.




By the time Hearn offered 7 million, Wilder already had an offer to fight Fury for 14 million. Why would Wilder go overseas to fight for an enemy promoter for half the money he made fighting at home for a friendly promoter?

So All of the PBC fighters can do this without the government finding out? Yeah, sure. Don't tell me, all of Wilder's opponents were getting paid a lot more than what was put out there as well?

Neither Fury or wilder got paid 14 Mill for their first fight. You're talking rubbish.

Wilder didn't fight Fury until December of 2018. They made the deal in a short space of time. It wasn't something that went on for weeks and months. Eddie offered Wilder the 7 Mill in July, well before the Fury fight was an option. Wilder still ran away.

The fight with Whyte was offered on American soil. Just like the Joshua fights were.

Where did Breazeal have a contract to fight for mandatory on THAT DATE? He didn't. You're just making excuses as per usual or just flat out lying.

[WBC WBA IBF]

So All of the PBC fighters can do this without the government finding out? Yeah, sure. Don't tell me, all of Wilder's opponents were getting paid a lot more than what was put out there as well?

It's not just PBC fighters. Everyone does it. The federal government is still getting their proper cut. It's sanctioning bodies and state athletic commissions that are hurt financially by this, but there's nothing they can do about it.

Neither Fury or wilder got paid 14 Mill for their first fight. You're talking rubbish.

You're wrong.

https://www.mmamania.com/2018/12/1/18121032/wilder-vs-fury-salaries-bronze-bomber-banks-4-million-fury-walks-away-with-3-million-showtime-boxing

"Wilder stands to earn roughly $14 million, while Fury is expected to bank $10.25 million."


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/30/wild...uperfight.html

"Wilder stands to earn $14 million for the December 1 showdown, while Fury is expected to make $10 million regardless of the outcome."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1051813/Fury-vs-Wilder-Prize-Money-Deontay-Wilder-and-Deontay-Wilder-Purses-Revealed

"For his eighth title defence, 33-year-old Wilder will pocket £10.94million ($14million). Fury's second world title fight will earn him a cool £8million ($10.25million)"

Wilder didn't fight Fury until December of 2018. They made the deal in a short space of time. It wasn't something that went on for weeks and months. Eddie offered Wilder the 7 Mill in July, well before the Fury fight was an option.

Hearn offered the $7 million on July 30, a month after Fury had already publicly confirmed he had an offer from Wilder. By August, the deal was already done for the fight and it was officially announced in September. You're absolutely lying when you say Fury wasn't an option for Wilder when Eddie made his offer. You've been brainwashed by Hearn. The facts clearly show you're wrong.

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It's not just PBC fighters. Everyone does it. The federal government is still getting their proper cut. It's sanctioning bodies and state athletic commissions that are hurt financially by this, but there's nothing they can do about it.




You're wrong.

https://www.mmamania.com/2018/12/1/18121032/wilder-vs-fury-salaries-bronze-bomber-banks-4-million-fury-walks-away-with-3-million-showtime-boxing

"Wilder stands to earn roughly $14 million, while Fury is expected to bank $10.25 million."


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/30/wild...uperfight.html

"Wilder stands to earn $14 million for the December 1 showdown, while Fury is expected to make $10 million regardless of the outcome."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/1051813/Fury-vs-Wilder-Prize-Money-Deontay-Wilder-and-Deontay-Wilder-Purses-Revealed

"For his eighth title defence, 33-year-old Wilder will pocket £10.94million ($14million). Fury's second world title fight will earn him a cool £8million ($10.25million)"




Hearn offered the $7 million on July 30, a month after Fury had already publicly confirmed he had an offer from Wilder. By August, the deal was already done for the fight and it was officially announced in September. You're absolutely lying when you say Fury wasn't an option for Wilder when Eddie made his offer. You've been brainwashed by Hearn. The facts clearly show you're wrong.

You can find many contradicting purses for both fighters all over the internet. Fury, one of the actual fighters, told everyone how much each got paid. Do you know how much it was? Haymon, Wilder and co needed to convince everybody that Wilder was getting paid big in order to justify asking for a 50/50 split. It was of course, a load of bollocks. He wasn't. How else where they going to turn down the 15 Mill offers? It was way beyond what they were making but needed the excuse in order to duck. They had no intention of ever making the AJ fight. They used him to promote his bum fights and hope delusional idiots would buy into it through the hype caused by all the slander to the real champ. Although it felt like it worked on cess pit sites like this, it in fact didn't. The ticket buys didn't go up. Wilder was still failing to draw people to watch bum number 76.

Wilder and Fury both needed reasons to why they both didn't want Joshua or Whyte. So they got together pretty quickly after the Whyte and AJ offers to use as excuses. That's what in fact happened. This was not long after Fury told everyone that he wasn't ready to fight AJ or Whyte after Eddie made him a 3 fight offer that led to AJ. A few weeks later, he's got the Wilder fight. Wilder got in touch with Fury after hearing him say he'd destroy him even in the condition he was in. Wilder needed to take the heat off the AJ and Whyte ducks but with someone who was either shot or vulnerable. Fury was perfect. And as we know, it all backfired.

So no, i'm not wrong.

Where did Breazeal have a contract for a mandatory fight on THAT DATE?

[WBC WBA IBF]

They had no intention of ever making the AJ fight.

This is a lie. Showtime put up the $50 million Joshua asked for and he acted dishonorably and didn't keep his word.

Where did Breazeal have a contract for a mandatory fight on THAT DATE?

Stiverne vs. Breazeale in a final eliminator as the Wilder-Ortiz PPV co-feature was finalized, signed and announced for that specific date.

When Stiverne had to fill in for Ortiz on short notice, Breazeale was legally entitled to a final eliminator, on that date, against the leading available contender (Molina).