Comments Thread For: WBA, Mendoza Named As Defendants In Charr's Amended Lawsuit Against Don King

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I never said Haymon had Ortiz fail a test on purpose. I said i wouldn't be surprised if Haymon had involvement by the fact Povetkin failed at just the right moment too when Wilder wanted nothing to do with the fight or to be anywhere near Russia.

Breazeal can have his final eliminator. But it should have been with Whyte at a date where both are properly trained. What are you not getting about this?

You said Haymon had it planned all along, that's only possible if he had Ortiz fail the test on purpose.

Wilder had already trained and flown overseas when Povetkin failed a test. To suggest that Haymon had Povetkin fail a test on purpose is even more absurd.

Breazeale was entitled to a final eliminator on the date he'd been training for. Whoever was willing to fill in was going to get the fight. That's how boxing works.

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You said Haymon had it planned all along, that's only possible if he had Ortiz fail the test on purpose.

Wilder had already trained and flown overseas when Povetkin failed a test. To suggest that Haymon had Povetkin fail a test on purpose is even more absurd.

Breazeale was entitled to a final eliminator on the date he'd been training for. Whoever was willing to fill in was going to get the fight. That's how boxing works.

I said Haymon had plans to keep Whyte away from Wilder. This fell into his lap so he went with this. If it wasn't this, it was going to be another way.

Haymon is a scum bag that goes all the way back to the music industry. Why do you think Haymon wouldn't do something so scummy when he's that kind of person?

You don't make guarantees by the date. He was guaranteed a shot at a final eliminator and nothing else. Haymon even kept him back a year to make sure the next time mandatory comes back around it would be 2 years before another mandatory would be called. Whyte was told he'd have to wait 2 years before any of this happened. Whyte still had the message saved on his phone from Wilder.

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I said Haymon had plans to keep Whyte away from Wilder. This fell into his lap so he went with this. If it wasn't this, it was going to be another way.

That makes no sense because Whyte was #4 at the time and years away from a hypothetical mandatory shot and during those following years Wilder faced much tougher fighters than Whyte.

You don't make guarantees by the date. He was guaranteed a shot at a final eliminator and nothing else.

You're wrong. If you've already gone through training camp and the fight date is near, you're entitled to face the highest rated available contender. No different than when Joshua faced Takam.

Haymon even kept him back a year to make sure the next time mandatory comes back around it would be 2 years before another mandatory would be called. Whyte was told he'd have to wait 2 years before any of this happened. Whyte still had the message saved on his phone from Wilder.

Whyte refused to fight a final eliminator, which is why he had to wait so many years.

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That makes no sense because Whyte was #4 at the time and years away from a hypothetical mandatory shot and during those following years Wilder faced much tougher fighters than Whyte.




You're wrong. If you've already gone through training camp and the fight date is near, you're entitled to face the highest rated available contender. No different than when Joshua faced Takam.




Whyte refused to fight a final eliminator, which is why he had to wait so many years.

I've already told you that Whyte and Eddie Hearn wanted to fight Wilder. You've even acknowledged the offers. Who said anything about Whyte being mandatory at that point? Were all of Wilder's opponents a mandatory? No, but they still got the fight with him. Obviously you had to be a bum to get the fight.

Pulev was the mandatory but he didn't take the fight. So the next in line got it to clear AJ's pathway. How is that the same as f3cking over the highest rated fighter by calling for the fight 2 weeks before fight date? It isn't, is it?

Whyte refused to fight Breazeal 2 weeks before fight date, of course he turned it down. That's what Haymon wanted. But you're talking about another situation that is also bullshlt. But what has one point got to do with another? It has nothing to do with it. You're just making excuses now because you know Haymon and co are corrupt f3ckers. Breazeal and Whyte should have been ordered to fight for mandatory at a date where both fighters are fully prepared. That didn't happen. It was a set-up to keep him away. Leave your strawmen arguments and excuses out of it.

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I've already told you that Whyte and Eddie Hearn wanted to fight Wilder. You've even acknowledged the offers. Who said anything about Whyte being mandatory at that point?

Now your position makes even less sense. Why would Haymon need to do anything to avoid fighting Whyte as a voluntary?

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The WBA, IBF and WBO are all confirmed to be corrupt bribery operations.

The WBC has never ever had a scandal of that nature.

No, they almost went into bankruptcy because of the Rocchigiani debacle.

[WBC WBA IBF]

No, they almost went into bankruptcy because of the Rocchigiani debacle.

And? The other organizations sell their ratings for cash. The WBC doesn't. If the WBC's biggest scandal is reinstating Roy Jones as champion when everyone knew he was the real champion anyway, that's nothing compared to what the other groups have done.

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Now your position makes even less sense. Why would Haymon need to do anything to avoid fighting Whyte as a voluntary?

Because Haymon and Wilder knew Whyte and Hearn wanted it by making their intentions clear. That's what the offers were for.

Haymon and Wilder were clearly threatened by him. It's clear Whyte wanted the fight. It was the best fight for the biggest money on offer. Haymon and Wilder did everything to duck the fight. Why, can't you duck a fight unless you're mandatory or something?

Stop playing these games. It's boring.

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Because Haymon and Wilder knew Whyte and Hearn wanted it by making their intentions clear. That's what the offers were for.

Whyte wanted Wilder to fight him in the UK on Hearn's show for less money than Wilder was making fighting in the US on his own shows. Why would he do that?

Now that you've completely switched your position to Wilder trying to avoid a VOLUNTARY with Whyte, why would Haymon have needed to have King Kong fail a drug test on purpose? You're making absolutely no sense.

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People must be shedding a lot of braincells like me just reading these shitty, meaningless belt exchanges.

Focus on the topic of the thread. All belt orgs are crooked equally. They all sell their rankings to the highest bidder, otherwise people like Kambosos would never be one of the 'champions' in the boxing world. Disgusting. I couldn't think of a worse one than that for now.

At least I think the garbage IBF and WBO charge less corrupt money for their first brown envelope for initial ranking, unlike the other transparent criminal orgs, the WBC and WBA, who are used to much bigger envelopes. They'll even rank dead people at #1. Have some self respect please.

All of these criminal gangs should be shut down in the US. Focus on the WBC and WBA first.