Comments Thread For: Hearn Says 'Change' Is Happening in Saudi Arabia, Praises Country's Investment In Boxing

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  • Wacked_Out
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    #11
    What dif does it make where a boxing match is held. Who cares.

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    • jqSide
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      #12
      We all know it's not about change. It's about their money.

      And it's becoming harder for other promoters to make fights because fighters want huge money investors can't afford.

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      • The Old LefHook
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        #13
        We already knew you were a cheap sellout, Eddie boy.

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        • blitted_master
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          #14
          Keep your traditions Saudi Arabia. Don't become another globalist/western hellhole ripe with degeneracy and decay. The west is in free fall collapse and isn't worth imitating. Godspeed.

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          • Monty Fisto
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            #15
            Originally posted by Wacked_Out
            What dif does it make where a boxing match is held. Who cares.
            For one, the Saudis. Why do you think they are putting up the money? They care.

            Plus, anyone with a jot of social responsibility should care if the leader of a nation has people arbitrarily ****** up, tortured and/or murdered civilians for trivial 'offences' (suh as critcising the regime). The Saudis pay up a lot of money for this, for their new golf tournament and so on. A sportsman can take the money, but it comes with some baggage. If people say: "Hey, sportsman, you took the ****** lucre from the nation with the leader who murders and tortures journalists", this seems fair, as it is precisely what they have done.

            It's not like Joshua would go hungry if he didn't have this fight in Saudi Arabia. Anywhere he chose, he would still make millions. Yet he was happy to do the deal with the nation with the appalling human rights record for that extra bit of cash. And he goes down in my estimations (again, after doing it for the Ruiz fight).

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            • Monty Fisto
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              #16
              Originally posted by denium
              The Saudi government won't let Eddie see anything they don't want him to see.

              Eddie should attend the friday afternoon public beheadings to get a taste of the real Saudi Arabia.
              And perhaps go have a chat with Jamal Khashoggi's widow about why he's holding the fight there.

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              • rickJen
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                #17
                It's always as if Usyk or Joshua won't fight unless they get this astronomical sums of money.
                How much do these guys want exactly? $10 million each is not enough retirement money?

                This is all on Hearns.

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                • Wacked_Out
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Monty Fisto

                  For one, the Saudis. Why do you think they are putting up the money? They care.

                  Plus, anyone with a jot of social responsibility should care if the leader of a nation has people arbitrarily ****** up, tortured and/or murdered civilians for trivial 'offences' (suh as critcising the regime). The Saudis pay up a lot of money for this, for their new golf tournament and so on. A sportsman can take the money, but it comes with some baggage. If people say: "Hey, sportsman, you took the ****** lucre from the nation with the leader who murders and tortures journalists", this seems fair, as it is precisely what they have done.

                  It's not like Joshua would go hungry if he didn't have this fight in Saudi Arabia. Anywhere he chose, he would still make millions. Yet he was happy to do the deal with the nation with the appalling human rights record for that extra bit of cash. And he goes down in my estimations (again, after doing it for the Ruiz fight).
                  No country is morally superior they all do the same $#!t. And this is only about boxing not anything else. And yeah true, the Saudis care because they want to attract top boxing. Anywhere you choose, you can cite some bad crap done in that country.
                  Last edited by Wacked_Out; 07-06-2022, 05:57 PM.

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                  • Monty Fisto
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Wacked_Out

                    No country is morally superior they all do the same $#!t. And this is only about boxing not anything else. And yeah true, the Saudis care because they want to attract top boxing. Anywhere he chooses, you can cite some bad crap done in that country.
                    Yes, which is the whataboutery argument, which excuses Saudi Arabia not one jot for the bad shlt they have done.

                    Your argument basically amounts to every country is the same, which I think is a very weak argument (I will explain why, bear with me). Things like a government shouldn't lock up an individual without charge or fair trial have been accepted in the west since medieval times. It goes all the way back to the magna carta and is fundamentally about how everyone has a fundamental right to being treated in an equitable fashion by the rulers. But you don't have that in 2022 in Saudi Arabia and this is about calling them out on that.

                    This is about boxing, yes. About the Saudis using their oil money to use boxing as a tool to distract from their terrible abuses of human rights. And there we have a key difference between Saudi Arabia and the other countries for which you claim we can 'cite some bad crap.' If the fight was in the US, or the UK, the fight wouldn't be funded by the regime. It would ultimately be funded by what commercial revenue the fight generates. Not so with Saudi Arabia, where the funding is inextricably linked with the bad regime.

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                      #20
                      Hearn should do interview with female ninjas in SA.

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