Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce Drops Christian Hammer Four Times For Stoppage in Four

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  • maespinoza1990
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    #101
    [QUOTE=Sparked_26;n31481639]
    Originally posted by famicommander

    He's 36. It's time to stop trotting out shot fighters like Hammer, Stiverne, and Takam. Parker sucks too.[/QUOTE

    To ask the queation another way - who do you think would jump in with Joe Joyce without a big pay cheque?
    needs to fight winner of Ruiz vs Ortiz or Wallin, frank Sanchez, Robert helenius next

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    • Sparked_26
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      #102
      [QUOTE=maespinoza1990;n31481654]
      Originally posted by Sparked_26

      needs to fight winner of Ruiz vs Ortiz or Wallin, frank Sanchez, Robert helenius next
      Maybe Wallin or Helenius are gettable imo.

      A title shot might nearly be there for the others. I just don't believe you jump in with Joe unless you have to
      Last edited by Sparked_26; 07-02-2022, 05:54 PM.

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      • Old Spice
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        #103
        Joyce has good defense. Blocking those shots with his face will serve him well against top competition

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        • Oldskoolg
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          #104
          Someone’s going to have to deal with him…the lad with the traveller name couldn’t have picked a better nickname in the juggernaut. He’s going to be avoided

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            #105
            Originally posted by famicommander

            My issue with his opposition is you can count the number of good heavyweights on one hand and he hasn't fought any of them.
            Name another current HW who’s fought better comp in their first 14 fights? Joyce has been matched tough from debut, that’s undeniable. Who exactly would you like him to fight? It’s not like Fury, Wilder, Usyk, AJ etc are available.

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            • famicommander
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              #106
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              Name another current HW who’s fought better comp in their first 14 fights? Joyce has been matched tough from debut, that’s undeniable. Who exactly would you like him to fight? It’s not like Fury, Wilder, Usyk, AJ etc are available.
              I don't care how many fights he has had. He's 36 and people are rating him now, they're not projecting based on his first 14 fights. They're saying he's ready now. He's nothing until he beats somebody good.

              This whole thing where people want to hype a guy up but then make excuses for him at the same time doesn't fly with me. I don't care that it's not his fault he can't get anybody good in the ring. It may not be his fault, but it doesn't count for anything in his favor either. He's just another guy with no good wins. I'm not rating him off wins over the guys who used to be Christian Hammer, Carlos Takam, Bermane Stiverne, and Ustinov.

              I don't rate Anderson, Hrgovic, DuBois, Sanchez, Zhang, or Bakole either. None of them have accomplished anything.

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              • hitmanjosh
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                #107
                Most people don’t know sh_tttt about boxing!

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                • petegrif
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                  #108
                  Juggernaut is right He's remorseless
                  Nobody wants to fight this guy

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                  • SteveM
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    Name another current HW who’s fought better comp in their first 14 fights? Joyce has been matched tough from debut, that’s undeniable. Who exactly would you like him to fight? It’s not like Fury, Wilder, Usyk, AJ etc are available.
                    Who? Sánchez, Ruiz, Hgrovic, Helenius Wallon, Parker

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                    • PRINCEKOOL
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                      #110
                      Joyce will up the levels depending on who he is facing.

                      His performance vs Dubois was not a crude performance. His defense was better than usual, and it was his Jab that won him the fight.

                      Beating Dubois is a very underrated performance. Not many Heavyweights could withstand the violent attacks from Dubois.

                      I was impressed how Joyce, did not panic and stuck to a game plan etc.

                      But as many people have stated, Joyce needs big fights NOW. There is a risk, that by the time he gets his title shot? He will be eroded.

                      I think Dubois needs better match making under Warren. Looking through his resume, David Haye was finding this man tough opponents.

                      Joe Joyce has the 4th best resume in the UK, he may even have a better winning resume than Derek Chisora 'Joyce has a top-8 resume in World Heavyweight boxing'.

                      That will be a good fight, Joyce vs Chisora.

                      Would Chisora take it?

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