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  • #81
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post

    The NABO is a north american title, not a world title.

    Ring is a magazine, not a world title.
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post

    Terence Crawford has only fought for a vacant world championship on one occasion.

    You got called out with data.

    The Ring championship IS a championship. It counts. Don't deflect because you like your guy.

    "At The End Of The Day", Crawford fought for multiple vacant belts. Period.

    As well, WBO-NABO being regional makes it international because it's not world. Thus, it meets your (broken) criteria anyway.
    Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 07-03-2022, 07:23 AM.
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    • #82
      Originally posted by Boricua181 View Post



      I was responding to complaining about title's be vacant, and him not being chosen to fight for any of those title's.
      I've stated my opinion, and you've stated yours, there are factual points in both of our stated opinion's.
      I was pointing out out that Subriel is fighting for a title in the near future, Regis isn't because his approach was off as well.
      Don't get me wrong about Regis he's a damn good fighter, and he proved that in his only loss to Taylor, who in winning looked like the loser due to the facial damage caused by Regis' fist.
      I hope that if Subriel does beat Jeremias, that his next fight is against no other than Regis, and that's going to be a bloody battle between two of the best fighters in the 140 pound division.
      That said I've got Subriel winning that fight by a brutal knockout after a barn burner of a fight as you so aptly put it in your reply to my post.
      By the way virtually everyone makes statements on social media professional boxers are no different, they are only human and succumb to the same things that are current.
      What Subriel said was that SHO Time had offered Regis the fight, and he didn't take it, then he further stated send me the contract I'll sign it, and even go to your backyard to fight you.
      The YouTube Video's on this subject are 1. CMD Boxing Reports 12/22/20, 2. YuLu 12/20/20, 3. Tru School Sports, and Regis' reply on 4. 3KINGS Boxing World.
      I just want to see this fight happen, and for Regis Prograis to stop saying that nobody is mentioning his name, or wants to fight him because he's lying to the boxing fan's.
      To be fair to both, I believe Regis when he said that he wasn't offered that fight, and he's pretty much right in that, nobody really mentions him. But to be fair to both Matias and yourself, Matias is probably one of the few, and the last that I can remember, that has actually mentioned him, but that was some time ago. And whilst I believe that Matias probably believes a contract was offered, I also am of the opinion that, that has been what he was told by way of appeasement. Showtime are pretty good at claiming to their fighters, that they offered this and that, and they basically didn't. Just look at the amount of call outs from Ortiz, and claims of all these contracts sent, and nobody wants to fight him. It's nonsense. And it takes Matias mind off of a fight he wants, and steers him in a direction that both Showtime and PBC want. There's no way they were offering anything to a guy who wouldn't sign for them, and wanted to remain promotionally free. Regis was a fool there. He should have signed for PBC and good fights would have followed. But he overestimate his popularity. It's a fight Id love to see. It's a 50/50 imo, but I lean to Prograis, as I feel Matias has defensive deficiencies. But would not be surprised of the result either way. Here's hoping we get that fight in the future.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post

        The NABO is a north american title, not a world title.

        Ring is a magazine, not a world title.
        No, Ring isn’t. However it is typically one of the most recognized across all other orgs. Too bad over the years they too hook up fights with chosen ones vs. no hopers. You place far too much stock in alphabet soup orgs and their participation trophies. Prograis doesn’t need a WWE strap for boxing efficianados to know what’s already known. He is top 3 in the division.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Rodtang View Post
          It is now. That's just been adjusted since they chose 1 v 6. Akhmedov was no 6 at the time of the process and the subsequent order. It should have been Puello Vs Barroso. You talk about these lesser trinkets you value so much. Are you forgetting that Barroso is the WBA gold champion? That's why he was in the number 2 slot. But he's been brushed aside by the corrupt WBA to allow an all PBC sham. Prograis, as their former champion, has better credentials than all these guys. I don't sympathize with him, because he made some bad career choices, post WBSS. But he's the superior fighter, and being former champion ought to count for something.
          Akhmedov knocked Barroso out and successfully petitioned for the #2 ranting.

          On what basis should Prograis have been #2?

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post
            You got called out with data.

            The Ring championship IS a championship. It counts. Don't deflect because you like your guy.

            "At The End Of The Day", Crawford fought for multiple vacant belts. Period.

            As well, WBO-NABO being regional makes it international because it's not world. Thus, it meets your (broken) criteria anyway.
            Did you even read the words you quoted? I clearly said world championship. NABO is a continental championship. Ring is a magazine, not a world championship.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post
              No, Ring isn’t. However it is typically one of the most recognized across all other orgs. Too bad over the years they too hook up fights with chosen ones vs. no hopers. You place far too much stock in alphabet soup orgs and their participation trophies. Prograis doesn’t need a WWE strap for boxing efficianados to know what’s already known. He is top 3 in the division.
              Ring isn't recognized by any of the orgs. It's a magazine.

              I'm not putting any stock in anything. Prograis bitched about not being top two for one of the vacant titles. He's the one putting stock in it. But he has an incompetent promoter, hasn't been active, and doesn't hold any regional championships, so it shouldn't be a surprise that he's not top two.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post

                Ring isn't recognized by any of the orgs. It's a magazine.

                I'm not putting any stock in anything. Prograis bitched about not being top two for one of the vacant titles. He's the one putting stock in it. But he has an incompetent promoter, hasn't been active, and doesn't hold any regional championships, so it shouldn't be a surprise that he's not top two.
                I will agree he does have incompetent promoters. They have ruined the sport. Now all boxing is filled with is social media premadonnas who do nothing but yap like chihuahuas over the internet with “call outs.” Boxing today is at its lowest point and for good reason. 30-40 years ago best fought best and having a 0 was a mark of good measure because you picked yourself back up and moved forward. SRL was fighting Hearns, Hearns was fighting Hagler, Hagler SRL, SRL Duran. They all whooped up on each other, they all made millions off each other and each was a household name. Millions tuned in each week to watch ABC sport’s weekly fight.

                Not anymore. Boxing is garbage and I’m good with it being thrown to the trash heap of history along with its millennial boxers.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Boricua181 View Post

                  BoxingIsGreat, I did some research due to someone's reply to one of my posts, and Regis Prograis did respond to Subriel's call out, but he didn't push for the fight to be made.
                  If you want to check out the YouTube Video's on the call out, and Regis' reply they can by seen by going to the following: CDM Boxing Reports 12/22/22,
                  YuLu 12/22/20, 3KINGS Boxing World, and Tru School Sports 6/18/22.
                  I trust what you say completely. No need to check. Thank you.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

                    To be fair to both, I believe Regis when he said that he wasn't offered that fight, and he's pretty much right in that, nobody really mentions him. But to be fair to both Matias and yourself, Matias is probably one of the few, and the last that I can remember, that has actually mentioned him, but that was some time ago. And whilst I believe that Matias probably believes a contract was offered, I also am of the opinion that, that has been what he was told by way of appeasement. Showtime are pretty good at claiming to their fighters, that they offered this and that, and they basically didn't. Just look at the amount of call outs from Ortiz, and claims of all these contracts sent, and nobody wants to fight him. It's nonsense. And it takes Matias mind off of a fight he wants, and steers him in a direction that both Showtime and PBC want. There's no way they were offering anything to a guy who wouldn't sign for them, and wanted to remain promotionally free. Regis was a fool there. He should have signed for PBC and good fights would have followed. But he overestimate his popularity. It's a fight Id love to see. It's a 50/50 imo, but I lean to Prograis, as I feel Matias has defensive deficiencies. But would not be surprised of the result either way. Here's hoping we get that fight in the future.
                    I respect your opinion Rodtang, and appreciate your professional response on this platform, which at times is deplorable if not disgraceful.
                    That said I do believe this fight is two or three fights from being signed, if they don't suffer a defeat along the way.
                    I don't see that happening to either one of them in the near future, as they're among the cream of the crop in the 140 pound division.
                    I'm pretty sure that we'll be talking about this particular fight again in the near future, if not in 2022, then for certain in 2023.
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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post

                      I trust what you say completely. No need to check. Thank you.
                      That's why BoxingIsGreat, and I hope that it continues to get better with more competitive fights between ranked fighters, and the champions.
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