Comments Thread For: Joshua Cites Lack of Communication in Usyk Loss, Nobody Told Him He Was Losing

[Wacked_Out]

So basically, he's telling us he had a lot left, and a couple more switches he coulda flipped, but put himself in low gear and held back because nobody told him he had to. And unfortunately, he says, there was no one competent in his corner to let him know it was time to put out the effort.
How hard you gotta hit this guy to wake him up?

[mike1010011]

What did he want? "Hey,this guy keeps kicking your ass. Try harder."

[Unidentified]

Define 'a lot'. I reckon he's been hit in the face more in fights plenty of times.

The difference was the quality, the movement and the timing from Usyk. It was beautiful to watch. But Joshua was in the worst possible place to actually appreciate that.

Alot: Several, way more than a few, etc.

[Oregonian]

What's that got to do with anything I said?

Usyk fans are strangely emotional, it's like they are DESPERATE

For what it's worth, Usyk probably will win, he is the better boxer, but it will be squeaky bum time for his fans on the night because one clean shot on the chin from AJ and this whole Usyk thing people have got going on comes to an end.

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Just because I shít on AJ doesn’t make me a Usyk fan. I truly don’t care for Usyk. This is about your strangely emotional loyalty to AJ who got KO’d by Ruiz and got beat by Usyk.

Now, let’s quote your words … “Joshua got NO help from his corner vs Usyk nor did he vs Ruiz 1, its clear to me Mcracken isn't very good at coaching through a fight. If things start going wrong he is clueless. As Joshua isn't a tactical mastermind he needs clear and clever instruction which he did not get from Rob.

Nothing Joshua said here is outlandish, it makes perfect sense but people stiiiiiiillllllll find reason to hate on him lol.

You are making excuses for AJ’s losses. In fact look at the words you use. AJ isn’t a tactical masterclass and when things go wrong, he is clueless - you are literally proving what people think of AJ.

At this point in his career, we know AJ is just an average boxer with a huge puncher’s chance. He is no different from Hasim Rahman who once KO’d Lennox Lewis. Against a formidable opponent, AJ will lose 9 out of 10 times and Fury would literally wipe the floor with him.
For that reason, I hope Usyk beats him.

[Oregonian]

Yes it was more fatigue, which made that assault look more dramatic.
Still, that was underrated defense by Joshua. He did get hit, but also invaded a few punches.

Not good that fatigue, needs to sort that out.

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How does a pro boxer with a team of pros (strength and conditioning expert, nutritionist, sparring partners, coaches etc) get fatigued?
Seriously! How is that possible?

Meanwhile, a beluga looking Fury is supremely conditioned running on full tank with 2nd and 3rd winds in his fights.

How can AJ fans justify or defend AJ’s losses?? At this point, AJ is no different from Hasim Rahman. A guy with a puncher’s chance but a perennial gatekeeper.
Sure he’ll win some fights but he’s no longer what his fans delusionally believe he is.

[PRINCEKOOL]

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How does a pro boxer with a team of pros (strength and conditioning expert, nutritionist, sparring partners, coaches etc) get fatigued?
Seriously! How is that possible?

Meanwhile, a beluga looking Fury is supremely conditioned running on full tank with 2nd and 3rd winds in his fights.

How can AJ fans justify or defend AJ’s losses?? At this point, AJ is no different from Hasim Rahman. A guy with a puncher’s chance but a perennial gatekeeper.
Sure he’ll win some fights but he’s no longer what his fans delusionally believe he is.

I think Fury's endurance is overrated. In his last fight? Great fight in terms of action, but both Wilder & Fury looked to be fighting under water.

Fury's fluidity helps him fight through fatigue. But I see him fatigued in most of his fights, even when they are not a high pace.

Kiltschko vs Joshua was fought at a higher pace than Wilder vs Fury III.

Fury's endurance is slightly better than Joshua's, but not by miles like people try and make out.

I don't think Joshua's endurance is super bad, it is not not elite. Joshua seems to have to fight at a medium pace, he can do this for prolonged periods of time.

It is when he ups it into the high intensity pace, where his lack of fluidity and aerobic conditioning is not as good.

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How does a pro boxer with a team of pros (strength and conditioning expert, nutritionist, sparring partners, coaches etc) get fatigued?
Seriously! How is that possible?

Meanwhile, a beluga looking Fury is supremely conditioned running on full tank with 2nd and 3rd winds in his fights.

How can AJ fans justify or defend AJ’s losses?? At this point, AJ is no different from Hasim Rahman. A guy with a puncher’s chance but a perennial gatekeeper.
Sure he’ll win some fights but he’s no longer what his fans delusionally believe he is.

The fighters A.J lost to are better then the ones Lewis lost to . Lewis didn’t even fight southpaws he self admitted avoiding them as a safeguard to potentially take a loss .

Doubke standards as always .

[Boxingfanatic75]

The fighters A.J lost to are better then the ones Lewis lost to . Lewis didn’t even fight southpaws he self admitted avoiding them as a safeguard to potentially take a loss .

Doubke standards as always .

You and I have good exchanges but on this one I’ll have to disagree. Up until Usyk joined the HW division this has been the weakest the division has been in almost 50 years. The top 15 during the prior eras would wipe the floor with the HW division today outside of the top 3. I’d even give the top 15 FAR better chances to knock off seomeone within the top 3 today.

[Oregonian]

I think Fury's endurance is overrated. In his last fight? Great fight in terms of action, but both Wilder & Fury looked to be fighting under water.

Fury's fluidity helps him fight through fatigue. But I see him fatigued in most of his fights, even when they are not a high pace.

Kiltschko vs Joshua was fought at a higher pace than Wilder vs Fury III.

Fury's endurance is slightly better than Joshua's, but not by miles like people try and make out.

I don't think Joshua's endurance is super bad, it is not not elite. Joshua seems to have to fight at a medium pace, he can do this for prolonged periods of time.

It is when he ups it into the high intensity pace, where his lack of fluidity and aerobic conditioning is not as good.

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For a guy that looks like a beluga whale to fight through adversity and will himself into a fight, it’s a disservice to say him and AJ are similar.
To fight at a medium pace is fine if you have the skills and cat-like reflexes of a Floyd Mayweather, the bottom line which you seem to have ignored, is how can a highly paid pro boxer get fatigued? A guy that was not 30 when a pudgy Ruiz manhandled him.
It is absurd and ridiculous to see that.

[MastaBlasta]

No way this giant cuck didn’t know he was losing.

He was content to lose by UD, instead of risking getting ktfo by trying hard to win, knowing he had a rematch clause.

Same thing Canelo and Kambosos did in their last fights.

You make a good case against immediate rematches.