Deontay Wilders best win is SCRAPING by a 40 year old ortiz

[Earl-Hickey]

Well, at least 40 years old.

People may not like it but we all saw.

Deontay, on ***** street, wobbling all over the place, Ortiz piling it on, Wilder saved by the bell, given another 60 seconds by the doctor to protect him.

Eventually Ortiz old age and high blood pressure and wilders power bailed him out.

And that's really his best win by FAR.

AND PEOPLE WANT TO SAY THIS GUY IS #2 OF THIS ERA

Wilders career is one of the most cynical things I've ever seen, can't belive people fall for it.

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Only extremely strange posters rank Wilder number 2 or don’t care they look silly with lack of boxing knowledge .

At this point not even an opinion can validate a number 2 ranking ,and not even 3 is believable in the actual year 2022 .

One could still make a believable argument 4 or 5 ranking if they can make valid points which is the key on a forum but it’s one of its lesser strengths .

Ortiz has a 12 year career and now it’s 2022 a win over Ruiz will be his 1st consensus legit top win at 40 years old plus . If this isn’t lackluster I don’t know what is ? Wilder fans should be praying for an Ortiz win here because it’s probably the last chance saloon to put some beef on anyone who Wilder has defeated and who defeated A.J who was Ruiz .


If Ortiz defeats Ruiz it will somewhat make Wilders best win look better but remember Wilder fans that doesn’t mean you put Ruiz on Wilders resume like you did after he defeated A.J in the first fight and acted as if Wilder won that fight .

[PRINCEKOOL]

Wilder struggled with Ortiz, but it was a underrated win.

Ortiz was a capable fighter at those times 'Solid fighter'.

Beating Ortiz is a better win than Fury beating Dillian Whyte or Chisora etc.

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Wilder struggled with Ortiz, but it was a underrated win.

Ortiz was a capable fighter at those times 'Solid fighter'.

Beating Ortiz is a better win than Fury beating Dillian Whyte or Chisora etc.

Whytes wins over Povetkin and Parker trump any Ortiz wins . Whyte himself was WBC Silver champion , international and interim champion and fought better fighters then Ortiz did so what you say isn’t exactly true ,it’s not true at all here . Beating an Ortiz who failed his medical and was about to be replaced by Martin is not a better win then Fury defeating Whyte .

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What's funny is that Joshua still has the best resume of all the heavyweights... I don't even understand how that's up for debate. Regardless of his loss to Ruiz, and how he came back and beat Ruiz.

Wilder and Fury's resume's are just about the same as far as 'quality' opponents go. I love how people celebrate Fury's win over Whyte like it was some major achievement. Wilder's win over Ortiz was better than Fury's win over Whyte lol....

And people say Wilder is trash.... and call Fury the best in the world. How terrible is Fury that someone as bad as Wilder was able to properly connect and drop Fury 4 times? Yes Fury beat Wilder, but he was still dropped by such a 'trash' fighter.......... Fury's best win is Klitchko, and second best win is Wilder. Pretty poor resume.

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Whytes wins over Povetkin and Parker trump any Ortiz wins . Whyte himself was WBC Silver champion and fought better fighters then Ortiz did so what you say isn’t exactly true ,it’s not true at all here . Beating an Ortiz who failed his medical and was about to be replaced by Martin is not a better win then Fury defeating Whyte .

Remember Whyte's win over Povetkin was after he was knocked the f'k out by Povetkin in the first fight.

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Remember Whyte's win over Povetkin was after he was knocked the f'k out by Povetkin in the first fight.

Povetkin is better then Ortiz at least a more valid win when he was boxing so what’s your point ? Povetkin is a better win then any other win Ortiz has correct ?

[Earl-Hickey]

What's funny is that Joshua still has the best resume of all the heavyweights... I don't even understand how that's up for debate. Regardless of his loss to Ruiz, and how he came back and beat Ruiz.

Wilder and Fury's resume's are just about the same as far as 'quality' opponents go. I love how people celebrate Fury's win over Whyte like it was some major achievement. Wilder's win over Ortiz was better than Fury's win over Whyte lol....

And people say Wilder is trash.... and call Fury the best in the world. How terrible is Fury that someone as bad as Wilder was able to properly connect and drop Fury 4 times? Yes Fury beat Wilder, but he was still dropped by such a 'trash' fighter.......... Fury's best win is Klitchko, and second best win is Wilder. Pretty poor resume.

Fury lacks a bit in quantity but Wlad, Wilder and Whyte are very good.

Wlad is an A+ win due to the time Fury beat him

Wilder I class a bit lower because obviously Wilder is manufactured but fury did everyone a favour to rid the division of him, B+

Whyte a solid contender B-

AJ has a longer list of wins in that sort of B range but he doesn't have the top end fury does, I also don't "think" fury loses to the guys who beat AJ, I suppose Usyk is sort of questionable but I doubt it.

I'm kind of tired of everyone's weird hatred of AJ lately though, he's a bit boring and he's choked a couple of times in fights now but anyone would think he was Hitler or something and it's a bit silly, he has a good resume and he's a very good fighter, he has his chance against Usyk again and if he wins that then people will see him more as an excellent fighter who has "off nights"

[BodyBagz]

Who else has beaten Oldtiz ?

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What's funny is that Joshua still has the best resume of all the heavyweights... I don't even understand how that's up for debate. Regardless of his loss to Ruiz, and how he came back and beat Ruiz.

Wilder and Fury's resume's are just about the same as far as 'quality' opponents go. I love how people celebrate Fury's win over Whyte like it was some major achievement. Wilder's win over Ortiz was better than Fury's win over Whyte lol....

And people say Wilder is trash.... and call Fury the best in the world. How terrible is Fury that someone as bad as Wilder was able to properly connect and drop Fury 4 times? Yes Fury beat Wilder, but he was still dropped by such a 'trash' fighter.......... Fury's best win is Klitchko, and second best win is Wilder. Pretty poor resume.

Until Joshua dethrones two long-reigning champions, his resume will always be inferior to Fury.

At the moment Joshua has beaten zero real champions, he's now got another chance to beat one when he fights Usyk again.