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  • siablo14
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    #81
    Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
    He's a Jamaican with British citizenship just like plenty of Mexicans have American citizenship. Doesn't make them less Mexican and more American just like it doesn't make Dillian less Jamaican and more British. He doesn't talk like a Brit and he doesn't even currently live in the United Kingdom just got easy access to citizenship due to his nation once being enslaved by the UK as well.
    He is a British citizen. He is making money in Britain. Paying taxes in Britain. He doesn't pay an ounce of tax in Jamaica. Jamaican in name only. Jamaica doesn't benefit a thing from him. Britain does.

    His grandfather was Irish.

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    • Boxingfanatic75
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      #82
      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

      It should if it happens repeatedly and you have no other relevant wins in years.

      Wilder can raise his rating up in my eyes if he beats a good opponent in his comeback, until then he's got work to do and when your last win was Brezeale 3 years ago that's not enough to stay in the top 3, MAYBE you can put him at 5, thats pushing it, he can move up to 3 with 1 good win though.
      If that’s the criteria then Bud shouldn’t even be in the top 10

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      • Kannabis Kid
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        #83
        Originally posted by siablo14

        He is a British citizen. He is making money in Britain. Paying taxes in Britain. He doesn't pay an ounce of tax in Jamaica. Jamaican in name only. Jamaica doesn't benefit a thing from him. Britain does.

        His grandfather was Irish.
        My grandfather was Spaniard does that make me Spanish? All this time I thought Roy Jones Jr was American but it turns out he is Russian because he has Russian citizenship I was so wrong haha.

        By the way his grandfather was from Dublin, Ireland no relation the to the United Kingdom.
        Last edited by Kannabis Kid; 06-27-2022, 09:32 PM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
          My grandfather was Spaniard does that make me Spanish? All this time I thought Roy Jones Jr was American but it turns out he is Russian because he has Russian citizenship I was so wrong haha.

          By the way his grandfather was from Dublin, Ireland no relation the to the United Kingdom.
          Red - Can you get a Euro passport easily?

          Purple - he is both so you were right all along but didn't know. Give yourself a round of applause.

          Green - Close enough plus they cross borders with each other frequently.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

            If that’s the criteria then Bud shouldn’t even be in the top 10
            Bud fought 8 months ago and won . What would Wilder not fighting without a win for years have anything to do with Buds career who’s going on something like 12 title defenses ?
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 06-27-2022, 09:56 PM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by siablo14

              Red - Can you get a Euro passport easily?

              Purple - he is both so you were right all along but didn't know. Give yourself a round of applause.

              Green - Close enough plus they cross borders with each other frequently.
              Yes I can but I have no need, but now it's dependent on if you can obtain the passport easily? I guess I'll be Dominican in 2 years then.

              Oh yeah RJJ is certainly an ethnic Russian I believe his father was from Chechnya you can clearly see it.

              Nope you are wrong you thought The Republic of Ireland was a part of the UK (Northern Ireland) it's not they are independent so it holds no relation to being "British" but I guess being American and Canadian is considered the same thing to you then right? Since you know they cross borders with each other frequently. What about Mexico?

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                #87
                Fury has emasculated and neutered wilder.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  Bud fought 8 months ago and won . What would Wilder not fighting without a win for years have anything to do with Buds career who’s going on something like 12 title defenses ?
                  The man was talking about who he has beaten and his last win being against someone he finds to be less than par (in his view). He then goes onto say he rates top 5 if he fights someone noteworthy. Given that criteria I stand by what I said, Bud wouldn’t be in the top 10 under that exact criteria.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
                    Yes I can but I have no need, but now it's dependent on if you can obtain the passport easily? I guess I'll be Dominican in 2 years then.

                    Oh yeah RJJ is certainly an ethnic Russian I believe his father was from Chechnya you can clearly see it.

                    Nope you are wrong you thought The Republic of Ireland was a part of the UK (Northern Ireland) it's not they are independent so it holds no relation to being "British" but I guess being American and Canadian is considered the same thing to you then right? Since you know they cross borders with each other frequently. What about Mexico?
                    Purple - Y'all are descended from Spanish folks so that aint a big deal but once you are a citizen, you are equal to any other citizen.

                    Blue - he is a Russian, yes.

                    Yellow - Canadians and Americans seem the same. Some sound the same too. Happily allow each other to pass each other's borders freely. Nah, they don't treat Mexicans the same. They try to restrict Mexicans freely crossing the border.

                    But back to your issue. Dillian is British. That can never be taken from him now. His children are British now too. So from now on most of his line will be British and only be familiar with Britain. Dillian doesn't rep Jamaica in anyway or does business in Jamaica. That's a British dude now.

                    Even though Roy is Russian, he doesn't live there. His kids weren't born there or make their home there. None of Roy's line will mix and mingle and make Russia their home. Roy probably doesn't pay any taxes over there.



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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

                      The man was talking about who he has beaten and his last win being against someone he finds to be less than par (in his view). He then goes onto say he rates top 5 if he fights someone noteworthy. Given that criteria I stand by what I said, Bud wouldn’t be in the top 10 under that exact criteria.
                      Shawn Porter is more noteworthy in his own weight class then anyone who Wilders fought though . Literally no one Wilder ever defeated has truly key wins of their own that are even talked about ,look at anyone Wilders ever fought and see what their best win is .

                      It’s not just who anyones beaten it’s how long ago did they win I think you guys love to ignore this point. You can’t compare a Crawford to Wilder just based of that fact , Placing Wilder a top 3 now is not realistic if his last win was in 2019 with better fighters currently ranked higher but you guys know this .
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 06-28-2022, 07:56 AM.

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