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  • Madison Boxing
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    #31
    only chance hes got is buzzing him with something and the ref jumps in....

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    • hhh1200
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      #32
      Love AJ gassing out but he does 12 rounds vs Ruiz fighting on the back foot which takes the most energy. Effective aggression. Destroy the body for the first 5 rounds and take the zip-out Usyk legs. Has to be taught to catch with his gloves which I don't think Robert Garcia can teach. That's where I would have gone with Derrick James or Beterbiev coach. Spence and Beterbiev are excellent at catching out of the high guard and ripping to the body. Usyk is a sitting duck like the 6th round in the 1st fight if his legs aren't working. He moves with his feet like Keith Thurman, not awkward in a sense like Andrade.
      Last edited by hhh1200; 06-25-2022, 10:10 AM.

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        #33
        Robert is pulling our leg. Fight smart, of course! Don't gas out and don't get caught with anything ******. But that's not all. AJ must attack and attempt to knock this CW back down to CW.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
          The absolutism around this fight is kind of ridiculous.

          Mind you the same thing happened after Ruiz 1 (and before anyone @s me, yes I know Ruiz came in 300lbs and I know Usyk won't, the point still stands)

          After ruiz 1 it was a case of "AJ is tailor made for Ruiz" and when Ruiz weighed in, all that extra weight was just going to make him stronger and he would ko AJ easier etc.

          Point is AJ CAN beat Usyk, he's big enough, long enough and hits hard enough that it can happen, can't it, Usyk also isn't a perfect fighter, exceptional yes but he's already shown some susceptibility in the first fight, AJ had pockets of success, he cut him up, he hut Usyk with some body shots he didn't like. There are *****s to work away at.


          so some people need to stop being silly like they were about the Ruiz rematch, the fight is "somewhat" competitive.

          Usyk I put at around a 60% chance of winning, with AJ at 30% and the draw 10%

          It wouldn't be all that shocking if it happens, and you know, the closer the fight gets the more I get the feeling that it may actually happen, the climate seems ripe for it, doesn't it?
          Like the Ruiz jr II the same folks will start throwing excuses why Usyk lost the rematch to AJ. I believe AJ has the capability to adjust and beat Usyk in the rematch because Usyk is far from being unbeatable. Like you pointed out Usyk doesn't take body shots well and that can be his undoing.

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          • arumhaymonhearn
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            #35
            Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
            The absolutism around this fight is kind of ridiculous.

            Mind you the same thing happened after Ruiz 1 (and before anyone @s me, yes I know Ruiz came in 300lbs and I know Usyk won't, the point still stands)

            After ruiz 1 it was a case of "AJ is tailor made for Ruiz" and when Ruiz weighed in, all that extra weight was just going to make him stronger and he would ko AJ easier etc.

            Point is AJ CAN beat Usyk, he's big enough, long enough and hits hard enough that it can happen, can't it, Usyk also isn't a perfect fighter, exceptional yes but he's already shown some susceptibility in the first fight, AJ had pockets of success, he cut him up, he hut Usyk with some body shots he didn't like. There are *****s to work away at.


            so some people need to stop being silly like they were about the Ruiz rematch, the fight is "somewhat" competitive.

            Usyk I put at around a 60% chance of winning, with AJ at 30% and the draw 10%

            It wouldn't be all that shocking if it happens, and you know, the closer the fight gets the more I get the feeling that it may actually happen, the climate seems ripe for it, doesn't it?
            facts bruh


            after Ruiz ,, everybody was saying these same quotes , "no way AJ wins" "Ruiz style is all wrong for AJ"

            so far AJ is 1-0 in rematches , he's shown he can make adjustemnts , we'll just have to wait and see

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            • P to the J
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              #36
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

              Joshua has never been slow, he has faster punch combination speed than Tyson Fury. Whether he was 240 pounds or even 250 pounds.

              A bit inflexible yes, but for super heavyweight I would not describe him as slow.

              People just repeat these things to convince themselves, that he is no threat.

              The closer this fight gets, the more people will panic.
              Think you’re right with some of this. Hands are not particularly slow for his weight class; not compared to some. Not as quick as Parker, Wilder, or Usyk, but then who is?

              Ofc, he is certainly inflexible. Seen tons of his training videos with casuals really impressed with the stuff he does. For an everyday gym goer, some of his exercises are mind-blowing, but for a boxer? Absolutely ill-equipped for promoting the looseness you need, albeit, I say this a boxing fan, not a participant.

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              • KillaMane26
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                #37
                That's his only chance he not outworking or outboxing him

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by AmpMcv

                  I thought he should have gotten Joey Gamache and trained for the Teo V Loma approach. In and out until Usyk gets aggressive and then counter all night. Garcia's fighters and more of a come forward "out tough" you kind of guys and they usually fight dirty.
                  Which Robert Garcia fighters fight dirty?

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                  • P to the J
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Oldskoolg

                    Spot on assessment. Furthermore, notice how often we say that fighters lack head movement these days? Seems to be a dying art, like combination punching and cutting off the ring
                    Must admit, I’m haven’t been hardcore enough (till recent years, if at all) to know if head movement and those other skills are less present when juxtaposed with previous eras, but they certainly seem to be frustratingly lacking.

                    All I can say is, if you’re right then it’s not a surprise. The consensus is that the increasing corporatization of other sports has had the impact of diminishing the numbers of grassroots participants in boxing in favour of other more lucrative sporting pathways, thus shrinking any potential talent pool.

                    We, thus, have athletes who could have been sprinters and basketballers turning to boxing aged 19-21, doing **** they should have been doing from at least 10 years before, and it shows.

                    Missus always says AJ could have been moderately successful at most sports, but he’s not a real boxer, and she’s right. He’s just a product of the above phenomenon, and to be frank, has done well to get as far as he has, albeit, with a marketing machine behind him.
                    Last edited by P to the J; 06-25-2022, 02:00 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by elfag
                      lol

                      ok so he cant outbox Usyk but he also isnt supposed to go for the KO and use his size and power advantage


                      Um yeah he has to let his ***ing hands go and not be afraid of a counter from a cruiserweight.
                      Lol. And those who think Joshua is more powerful bulked up.... joshua is a naturally bigger man. Joshua could weight less than Usyk...it does not matter. Usyk has smaller bones, just a smaller frame. Joshua needs to not fall for this idea his power comes from his heft if he is going to be succesful.

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