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  • -Kev-
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    #41
    Originally posted by creekrat77
    Wow OP is just plain wrong in an outright embarrassing way. All these years of watching said fighters run, hold (basically fight scared) and then people have the audacity to say skills pay the bills. Shawn had a very close fight with Spence and Thurman. Broner has power, Maidana said he hits harder than Floyd. Also Shawn had to go down to 144 or something.
    Everybody hits harder than Floyd at 147.

    Mayweather had similar power to Malignaggi at 147.

    Mayweather: 12 bouts, 3 KO’s

    Malignaggi: 13 bouts, 2 KO’s

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      #42
      Originally posted by creekrat77
      Wow OP is just plain wrong in an outright embarrassing way. All these years of watching said fighters run, hold (basically fight scared) and then people have the audacity to say skills pay the bills. Shawn had a very close fight with Spence and Thurman. Broner has power, Maidana said he hits harder than Floyd. Also Shawn had to go down to 144 or something.
      Hitting hard is useless if it goes the distance and or doesn't score knockdowns.
      Even Pac's WW run usually went the distance and he probably hit harder than all of them.

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      • LeOoze
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        #43
        Originally posted by -Kev-

        Everybody hits harder than Floyd at 147.

        Mayweather had similar power to Malignaggi at 147.

        Mayweather: 12 bouts, 3 KO’s

        Malignaggi: 13 bouts, 2 KO’s
        you don't factor competition? mayweather would've had more knockouts if he fought paulie's competition, and malignaggi would probably go from 2 ko's to 0 and probably get knocked out more too.

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          #44
          Originally posted by mxtali

          that’s weird lol, he beat the shít out of berto
          Yea when Berto was shot to sht, part time fighter at the end of his career.

          ​​​​​​His sheer aggression worked for him in some fights but against top competition, his poor skills and technique really showed.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
            I like Porter he worked hard and maximized his talents, I don't remember him ever coming off as an unpleasant guy either.
            Yeah man. He had heart, trained hard, gave it his all every time. Didn’t screw up outside the ring. Skill and technique were distant seconds to his strength, stamina, aggressiveness, and eagerness. He’d fight anyone too. I like him as a commentator also. I think he’s been good for the sport and continues to be.

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              #46
              Originally posted by LeOoze

              you don't factor competition? mayweather would've had more knockouts if he fought paulie's competition, and malignaggi would probably go from 2 ko's to 0 and probably get knocked out more too.
              In addition to the fact that if you watch them fight, the effect of one guys punches and how his opponents respond to them is much different than the other.

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                #47
                Originally posted by LeOoze

                you don't factor competition? mayweather would've had more knockouts if he fought paulie's competition, and malignaggi would probably go from 2 ko's to 0 and probably get knocked out more too.
                Of course competition is factored in. But Mayweather was a small welterweight. Mayweather is a legit same-day-weigh-in fighter. At least as close as they come to old school weigh ins. So when Mayweather campaigned at 147, he weighed 150lbs in the ring. This made his power less effective. Which brings us back to: everyone at welterweight punched harder than Mayweather. It doesn’t matter was is factored in. Mayweather was just not a puncher at all at 147-154.

                But Mayweather wasn’t fighting all unknockoutable fighters either. I’ll give him Mosley, Baldomir, Maidana and Marquez.

                But:
                Judah?
                Guerrero?
                Berto?

                Should have been KO’s if he was even 50% the puncher he was at 130. He just wasn’t. Even Judah was slightly bigger than Mayweather.

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                  #48
                  shawn porter is similar to tim bradley.

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                  • STREET CLEANER
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
                    shawn porter is similar to tim bradley.
                    Tim had much more technic. Porter started to use the jab and box a bit more when he could at the end of his career.

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                    • STREET CLEANER
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by -Kev-

                      Of course competition is factored in. But Mayweather was a small welterweight. Mayweather is a legit same-day-weigh-in fighter. At least as close as they come to old school weigh ins. So when Mayweather campaigned at 147, he weighed 150lbs in the ring. This made his power less effective. Which brings us back to: everyone at welterweight punched harder than Mayweather. It doesn’t matter was is factored in. Mayweather was just not a puncher at all at 147-154.

                      But Mayweather wasn’t fighting all unknockoutable fighters either. I’ll give him Mosley, Baldomir, Maidana and Marquez.

                      But:
                      Judah?
                      Guerrero?
                      Berto?

                      Should have been KO’s if he was even 50% the puncher he was at 130. He just wasn’t. Even Judah was slightly bigger than Mayweather.
                      Maybe Judah but Guerrero was never stopped until the end of his career and Berto was stopped by volume punchers.

                      None of those guys was stopped because they were out cold.

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