Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce Could See Usyk Knocking Joshua Out in Rematch

[PRINCEKOOL]

Okay keep spinning. But no matter how many times one repeats a lie it doesn't become the truth. I’ll give you the last round to an extent. Joshua was against the ropes and Usyk threw a flurry which he only landed a couple of punches out of. One round does not determine how the entire fight went. It can determine the result of a fight if it is an even fight other than that round. He did win the fight. And I’m not arguing otherwise. But it was a very close fight. I think Joshua can definitely improve upon that performance. But Usyk, who is the far more experienced fighter, is not going to be able to do any better than what he did in the last fight.

Well done for thinking independently and critically.

In the movie Brave Heart, there is scene where? Scott's men will not believe that the man talking to them is William Wallace.

Because over the years, many people had exaggerated his stature.

Since Usyk beat Joshua, who apparently according to most people has no heart, is terrified of his opponents, and has terrible stamina. Since Usyk has beaten that Joshua, people have completely gone into overdrive in over exaggerating and making up the mythical abilities of Usyk.

I said early on in this thread, that Usyk cannot fight on the inside. And a member quoted me in disbelief, even though there is no evidence that at elite level he can fight on the inside.

We know that Joshua can fight a entirely different fight, and also completely change his physical dimensions if he really wants to.

Usyk can only really turn up in the same condition as last time, as he has not prior experience of being 230 pounds or dominating any other top heavyweight on the inside or even at mid-range.

Joshua has experience in bulldozing heavyweights, out boxing heavyweights, and getting up off the deck to then blast out another elite heavyweight. That is why I state, this rematch is all about 'What Anthony Joshua is going to do, and can Usyk react etc'.

This is still a momentous challenge for Joshua, but anyone who is honest can understand that he has the ability to win this fight.

It will still be the greatest Heavyweight win of the past 20 years, if Joshua beats Usyk.

[Toffee]

Before the first fight, people on here (yes, the majority) were saying Usyk couldn't win.

Now, based on one points victory, Joshua can't possibly win the rematch.

Do people really believe what they post on this forum?

[Boxviewer]

Out of the two fighters, Joshua & Usyk.

Which one of these two fighters, can improve the most from the first fight?

The answer is Anthony Joshua.

1: He fought the wrong tactical fight.

2: Joshua has the past knowledge and experience, of fighting at a higher weight. Joshua can completely change his dimension, and if he really wanted to? Come in at close to 250 pounds or even heavier.

3: Joshua did not use much of his mid-range offense.

What improvements or changes can Usyk make? Can he gain 10 pounds in mass? Can he fight on the inside? The answer is no. Of course he could gain 10 pounds in mass, but in doing so he would be entering into the unknown. Joshua has positive past experiences, while fighting at a higher weight 'He has empirical evidence, that he can function at a higher weight in a tough fight'.

Joshua was 250 pounds vs Kiltschko. That fight was fought at a higher pace than the Usyk fight, and Joshua in that fight for me? Displayed superior endurance and durability than any of his recent fights.

The fact of the matter is, this rematch is all about Anthony Joshua. Uysk right now is in a reactive state, he can only prepare and be optimistic that he can react to whatever Joshua turns up.

Usyk will pretty much turn up, near enough in the same condition as last time 'Same condition, same dimensions'.

What I like about Joshua in this build up so far, is that he is not in a reactive state. I have never once heard him speak, speculate what Usyk is going to do 'It has all been about, what he is going to do'.

When Godzilla wakes up, he is not thinking about what these other monsters are going to do 'He is only concerned about his prerogative, everyone else just has to deal with it'.

That is precisely the attitude Joshua needs to take into his fight.

Well said.

[Boxviewer]

Before the first fight, people on here (yes, the majority) were saying Usyk couldn't win.

Now, based on one points victory, Joshua can't possibly win the rematch.

Do people really believe what they post on this forum?

It shows that most people don't have a mind of their own, they just jump on the bandwagon of a popular opinion of that moment.

[Good ol' Douglas]

Don't be so pessimistic joyce, you want your countryman to win show some faith, Josh will need all the support he can get.
We all love usy k but we need Josh v fury

Speak for yourself. Only casuals from the UK and celebrity types desperately care about Fury vs. AJ now.

I would prefer Fury to pop the cherries of Usyk and Joyce both of whom I rate higher than the hype job bodybuilder.

[observer]

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I said early on in this thread, that Usyk cannot fight on the inside. And a member quoted me in disbelief, even though there is no evidence that at elite level he can fight on the inside.

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You don't need to go far. Re-watch Michael Hunter fight highlights. OK, Usyk does not do James Tony style stay-in-the pocket, or Roy Jones style punching vs Jeff Lacy where Jones seemed to be punching based on instincts rather than his eyes. But Usyk does not have to have much space to land a punch.

[PRINCEKOOL]

You don't need to go far. Re-watch Michael Hunter fight highlights. OK, Usyk does not do James Tony style stay-in-the pocket, or Roy Jones style punching vs Jeff Lacy where Jones seemed to be punching based on instincts rather than his eyes. But Usyk does not have to have much space to land a punch.

He cannot fight on the inside, to a great degree. Usyk has never shown this ability.

It is not one of his strengths. But I will say this? Usyk's upper limits of his abilities are unknown.

He has not really been tested or pushed to his limits inside of ring. Maybe when he has no other choice, but to fight on the inside 'Will we then witnessed his inside game'.

If Joshua fights the fight, I expect him to fight. I think Usyk's inside fighting capabilities will have to be used etc.