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  • #11
    Out of the two fighters, Joshua & Usyk.

    Which one of these two fighters, can improve the most from the first fight?

    The answer is Anthony Joshua.

    1: He fought the wrong tactical fight.

    2: Joshua has the past knowledge and experience, of fighting at a higher weight. Joshua can completely change his dimension, and if he really wanted to? Come in at close to 250 pounds or even heavier.

    3: Joshua did not use much of his mid-range offense.

    What improvements or changes can Usyk make? Can he gain 10 pounds in mass? Can he fight on the inside? The answer is no. Of course he could gain 10 pounds in mass, but in doing so he would be entering into the unknown. Joshua has positive past experiences, while fighting at a higher weight 'He has empirical evidence, that he can function at a higher weight in a tough fight'.

    Joshua was 250 pounds vs Kiltschko. That fight was fought at a higher pace than the Usyk fight, and Joshua in that fight for me? Displayed superior endurance and durability than any of his recent fights.

    The fact of the matter is, this rematch is all about Anthony Joshua. Uysk right now is in a reactive state, he can only prepare and be optimistic that he can react to whatever Joshua turns up.

    Usyk will pretty much turn up, near enough in the same condition as last time 'Same condition, same dimensions'.

    What I like about Joshua in this build up so far, is that he is not in a reactive state. I have never once heard him speak, speculate what Usyk is going to do 'It has all been about, what he is going to do'.

    When Godzilla wakes up, he is not thinking about what these other monsters are going to do 'He is only concerned about his prerogative, everyone else just has to deal with it'.

    That is precisely the attitude Joshua needs to take into his fight.



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    • #12
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
      Out of the two fighters, Joshua & Usyk.

      Which one of these two fighters, can improve the most from the first fight?

      The answer is Anthony Joshua.

      <<skipped>>
      Come on.

      Usyk can't fight on the inside? Are you serious?

      The rematch is all about Joshua? Well, Joshua lost the first fight, so yes, he is the one who has to do something different. If he does the same thing he did the first time, he loses again. As opposed to Usyk, who can do the same thing and still win.

      But how is Joshua at an advantage here? Because he has to try something new? I have no idea how to play the violin. So you should expect great things from me when I decide to finally give it a go?

      For Joshua to win, something extraordinary has to happen. Joshua has to become a different boxer, and Usyk has to become a different boxer too. Joshua has already had his miracle vs Ruiz. Don't bet on him having a lucky break twice.
      Last edited by observer; 06-17-2022, 06:36 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by observer View Post

        Come on.

        Usyk can't fight on the inside? Are you serious?

        The rematch is all about Joshua? Well, Joshua lost the first fight, so yes, he is the one who has to do something different. If he does the same thing he did the first time, he loses again. As opposed to Usyk, who can do the same thing and still win.

        But how is Joshua at an advantage here? Because he has to try something new? I have no idea how to play the violin. So you should expect great things from me when I decide to finally give it a go?

        For Joshua to win, something extraordinary has to happen. Joshua has to become a different boxer, and Usyk has to become a different boxer too. Joshua has already had his miracle vs Ruiz. Don't bet on him having a lucky break twice.
        Great post, seriously very well put.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by observer View Post

          Come on.

          Usyk can't fight on the inside? Are you serious?

          The rematch is all about Joshua? Well, Joshua lost the first fight, so yes, he is the one who has to do something different. If he does the same thing he did the first time, he loses again. As opposed to Usyk, who can do the same thing and still win.

          But how is Joshua at an advantage here? Because he has to try something new? I have no idea how to play the violin. So you should expect great things from me when I decide to finally give it a go?

          For Joshua to win, something extraordinary has to happen. Joshua has to become a different boxer, and Usyk has to become a different boxer too. Joshua has already had his miracle vs Ruiz. Don't bet on him having a lucky break twice.
          Yes I am serious mate. Neither Joshua or Usyk can fight on the inside.

          Usyk is not a inside fighter, he could do nothing with Chisora 'On the inside'.

          It was only when Chisora fatigued, did he gain distance and go to work.

          Why are you acting as if Uysk is Mike Tyson? Usyk cannot fight on the inside very well.

          I will repeat once again, this rematch is all about Anthony Joshua and what he is going to do.

          Joshua can change his game, to greater lengths than Usyk.

          All of the anticipation and speculation is focused on Anthony Joshua 'Not Usyk'.

          All the debates, all threads, all the articles in the media 'All focused on Joshua'.




          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 06-17-2022, 06:43 PM.
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          • #15
            Its amazing that so many people can agree to spin a completely false narrative at the same time. We’ve seen Usyk be dominate in fights before and he was certainly not that against Joshua. That was a very close fight. Usyk narrowly outpointed Anthony Joshua and took a lot of punishment himself in the process. Joshua doesn’t need to change anything about his approach to the fight. He just needs to use what he learned in the last fight against him and improve on his performance a little bit. If he does that and uses his natural advantages he will beat Usyk easily and probably knock him out.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
              Don't be so pessimistic joyce, you want your countryman to win show some faith, Josh will need all the support he can get.
              We all love usy k but we need Josh v fury
              I’d pay to see and all Burt throw down!

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              • #17
                The man speaks from personal experience. Usyk beat the brakes off him as a semi-pro.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by peplz View Post
                  Its amazing that so many people can agree to spin a completely false narrative at the same time. We’ve seen Usyk be dominate in fights before and he was certainly not that against Joshua. That was a very close fight. Usyk narrowly outpointed Anthony Joshua and took a lot of punishment himself in the process. Joshua doesn’t need to change anything about his approach to the fight. He just needs to use what he learned in the last fight against him and improve on his performance a little bit. If he does that and uses his natural advantages he will beat Usyk easily and probably knock him out.
                  The fight became a blow out in the final rounds.

                  Yes Joshua had a few good rounds in the middle of the fight but the sight of an exhausted Joshua, slumped grimacing on his stool for 180 long seconds while Usyk celebrated and danced for the crowd leaves a lasting impression, the impression being Joshua gave EVERYTHING to "only" lose a clear decision to Usyk, while Usyk still has more to give.
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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post

                    The fight became a blow out in the final rounds.

                    Yes Joshua had a few good rounds in the middle of the fight but the sight of an exhausted Joshua, slumped grimacing on his stool for 180 long seconds while Usyk celebrated and danced for the crowd leaves a lasting impression, the impression being Joshua gave EVERYTHING to "only" lose a clear decision to Usyk, while Usyk still has more to give.
                    Thank you, I was beginning to wonder if everyone forgot about that fact. They want Joshua to be MORE AGGRESSIVE and expend more energy meaning he's going to be completely exhausted even sooner. What about USING AN EFFECTIVE JAB to take advantage of your size instead of going in aggressive and getting countered by a far superior boxer.

                    If AJ is more aggressive he probably ends up being KO'd himself because his defense is terrible and he has no head movement. Now he'll be coming forward right into those straight left hands and we will see AJ doing funny mummy dances.
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post

                      The fight became a blow out in the final rounds.

                      Yes Joshua had a few good rounds in the middle of the fight but the sight of an exhausted Joshua, slumped grimacing on his stool for 180 long seconds while Usyk celebrated and danced for the crowd leaves a lasting impression, the impression being Joshua gave EVERYTHING to "only" lose a clear decision to Usyk, while Usyk still has more to give.
                      Okay keep spinning. But no matter how many times one repeats a lie it doesn't become the truth. I’ll give you the last round to an extent. Joshua was against the ropes and Usyk threw a flurry which he only landed a couple of punches out of. One round does not determine how the entire fight went. It can determine the result of a fight if it is an even fight other than that round. He did win the fight. And I’m not arguing otherwise. But it was a very close fight. I think Joshua can definitely improve upon that performance. But Usyk, who is the far more experienced fighter, is not going to be able to do any better than what he did in the last fight.
                      Last edited by peplz; 06-17-2022, 08:36 PM.
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