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    Was there really a catchweight of 144 pounds?

    Schaefer said the contract the fighters signed in May was for the bout to be at a limit of 147 pounds. But in that contract, each man agreed to a substantial penalty clause for every pound, or fraction thereof, more than 144.

    In that case either man could weigh as high as 147 pounds, right?

    Contractual weight was the 147 pound welter limit, but penalties were written into the contract for excess poundage over 144. ”The penalty [for Mayweather] was a significant amount of money,” said Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer.

    Nothing in that says anything about a catchweight...

    Someone please clarify...cuz that just sounds like a WW fight but with a weird stipulation in which there would be penalties for excess weight over 144...

  • #2
    obivously none of us can since we havent seen the contract. I wouldnt put it past floyd to f another fighter and org.

    The narrator on 24/7 said it was at 144

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    • #3
      LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

      The excess weight will cost Mayweather $300,000 per pound, meaning Marquez will get an additional $600,000 on top of his $3.2 million guarantee, a source told ESPN.com. Mayweather's minimum guarantee is $10 million, a figure likely to dramatically increase after the pay-per-view receipts are counted.

      Marquez, who has never fought heavier than 135 pounds, comfortably made 142 pounds, two less than the 144-pound contract weight.

      At Mayweather's request, nobody would speak publicly about the contract weight throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.

      However, several sources with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com all along that the contract maximum weight was 144 pounds, three less than the 147-pound welterweight maximum.

      But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."

      Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.

      According to the source, the Marquez camp knew Wednesday night that Mayweather would not make weight because Mayweather's team made overtures to Golden Boy Promotions in an effort to have Marquez agree to change weight on the bout agreements to be filed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

      However, Marquez's contract had already been filed reading 144 pounds, according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said the bout agreement was retrieved from the commission by Golden Boy Promotions and changed to 147 with Marquez initialing it.

      Mayweather's contract with 147 pounds was not filed with the commission until minutes before the weigh-in. Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.

      Kizer said the Mayweather camp asked to file it Thursday and he said OK, but that deadline also came and went.

      "We were very unhappy with the lateness of Mr. Mayweather's contract," Kizer said.

      Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez. For being two pounds overweight, Kizer said the penalty would have been 10 percent of his purse, or $1 million. Had he been three pounds over (147 pounds), the figure would have jumped to a 20 percent fine.

      http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4485941

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      • #4
        Well it doesn't seem exactly like a catchweight...Floyd was allowed to weigh in at 147 and below he just had to pay Marquez a few dollars...

        Although its contracted at 144 so it is a catchweight..wtf lol

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Crunch View Post
          LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

          The excess weight will cost Mayweather $300,000 per pound, meaning Marquez will get an additional $600,000 on top of his $3.2 million guarantee, a source told ESPN.com. Mayweather's minimum guarantee is $10 million, a figure likely to dramatically increase after the pay-per-view receipts are counted.

          Marquez, who has never fought heavier than 135 pounds, comfortably made 142 pounds, two less than the 144-pound contract weight.

          At Mayweather's request, nobody would speak publicly about the contract weight throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.

          However, several sources with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com all along that the contract maximum weight was 144 pounds, three less than the 147-pound welterweight maximum.

          But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."

          Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.

          According to the source, the Marquez camp knew Wednesday night that Mayweather would not make weight because Mayweather's team made overtures to Golden Boy Promotions in an effort to have Marquez agree to change weight on the bout agreements to be filed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

          However, Marquez's contract had already been filed reading 144 pounds, according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said the bout agreement was retrieved from the commission by Golden Boy Promotions and changed to 147 with Marquez initialing it.

          Mayweather's contract with 147 pounds was not filed with the commission until minutes before the weigh-in. Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.

          Kizer said the Mayweather camp asked to file it Thursday and he said OK, but that deadline also came and went.

          "We were very unhappy with the lateness of Mr. Mayweather's contract," Kizer said.

          Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez. For being two pounds overweight, Kizer said the penalty would have been 10 percent of his purse, or $1 million. Had he been three pounds over (147 pounds), the figure would have jumped to a 20 percent fine.

          http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4485941

          So much for Floyd not being at true welterweight.

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          • #6
            I'm confused to my dude .....I THOUGHT it was a catchweight scrap but IF thats the what the paper work said then I don't see a problem!!!....But as the p4p top dog as he proclaims..... he should've made the 144 to show he was NOT just bigger but also BETTER!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
              I'm confused to my dude .....I THOUGHT it was a catchweight scrap but IF thats the what the paper work said then I don't see a problem!!!....But as the p4p top dog as he proclaims..... he should've made the 144 to show he was NOT just bigger but also BETTER!!!
              My problem isn't so much with Floyd, but his fans who have said he's not a true welter.

              Floyd is about money and thats it. The excuses I've heard his fans make about him not really being a true welterweight are now null and void.

              Absolutely no reason he hasn't fought the Cotto's, Mosley's Margarito's or any other top fighter at 147. He's fighting a guy who's never fought above 135 and didn't make the contracted weight. Its no better than what Castillo did against Corrales or any other instance that can be brought up. Dude is a welter, he should have been fighting welters since he choose to move into the division.

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              • #8
                Then again, when Mayweather was constantly asked about 144, he said "This is a WW fight". Never said he'd make 144, he was drinking alot of water and soda, really made no attempt. I guess he didn't care.

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                • #9
                  Fight News= The weight was contracted at a limit of 147 with penalties for excessive weight

                  ESPN= The fight was contracted at a catchweight of 144 pounds...maximum weight

                  WTF


                  Does anyone know wat the contract said? lol

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                    Then again, when Mayweather was constantly asked about 144, he said "This is a WW fight". Never said he'd make 144, he was drinking alot of water and soda, really made no attempt. I guess he didn't care.
                    Originally posted by The_Executioner View Post
                    Fight News= The weight was contracted at a limit of 147 with penalties for excessive weight

                    ESPN= The fight was contracted at a catchweight of 144 pounds...maximum weight

                    WTF


                    Does anyone know wat the contract said? lol

                    We've all been reading 144 for months. Even if it was 147, there is no reason to make a guy with 2 fights at 135 jump to welter instead of fighting true welters. Its greed, and that's it. That is my beef and the beef of other fans who don't want to buy into Floyds money fights only way of fighting.

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