Comments Thread For: Roy Jones Takes Exception To Klitschko Criticism: Why Would You Target Me?

[Cortez]

YOU ARE A F-iING MORON.

Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia all have been part of NATO and has plenty of nato weapons. And they all border Russia. Soon Finland will also join.

This has nothing to do with nato weapons being
close russia - BUT STEALING OTHER COUNTRIES LAND AND GIVING PASSPORTS AROUND. They are already selling Ukraine's wheat to Turkey ans other countries like their own.

Open up a world glove next time... idiot

GLORY TO UKRAINE!

Exactly the point, Russia is surrounded by NATO weaponary ! And it is not going to allow it to continue, and if you think NATO will envoke article 5 and start a world war over those little countries you are crazy. The west has shown that it is spineless and leaderless and the Kremlin may in fact roll over places like estonia unless they leave nato soon enough, time will tell.


Yes when you invade another country the invader generally takes their **** that's how the world was formed.
And would you stop being so emotional? I didn't realise there was many females on a boxing board.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Actually, we don't need to imagine because genocidie has happened in many African countries and we did NOTHING.

That's exactly why I don't care.

[peplz]

Anything I hear? My next door neighbour is a refugee from Kharkiv, he watched civilians get tortured, ****d, and murdered. He’s shown me videos on his phone so repulsive I actually threw up later that night thinking of them…I guess you know more than people from Ukraine tho right?

weird to how for some reason it’s illegal to protest or use the word invasion in Russia now…can you explain why?
The fact your trying to justify the invasion was of a sovereign nation & massacre of innocent civilians tells me all I need to know about you.

you are an absolute ignorant, uneducated, misinformed animal. Piece of trash.

Man STFU and take this trash a s s white people war discussion elsewhere. Boxingscene shouldn’t even be publishing this trash. Completely irrelevant and completely irresponsible.

[wrecksracer]

roy can stroll around the crimea and wlad can't , that's what wlad is mad about, the funniest part of it all is that roy has no idea what the hell klitschko is talking about.

Maybe you are right that Roy doesn't know what Vlad is talking about. I hope one of his friends tells him "Dude, Russia is and always has been America's enemy." He was an Olympian in the 80s. Optics are real bad on becoming a Russian citizen.

[Cortez]

Everybody in Crimea sides with Russia? According to whom?

Oh, maybe the kangaroo voting? If Russia invaded your city, and killed your neighbors, destroyed ur neighborhood, and threatened you with their military presence so that you were in fear for your own life, let alone the situation being a lost cause, would u show up to vote if they asked, "Do you like me? Vote yes or no."

Spit. So dumb and foul.

voting patterns for the past decade would indicate so, there was no battle for crimea, Russia was already there. They speak russian there too, then ukraine banned the language lmao

Eastern Ukraiian regions are pro russian, you can pretend that they are not but they are , clearly.

[hitmanjosh]

Roy doesn’t have anything to do with what the bad President ***** created and started however he does have a moral obligation in my opinion to help get the US woman basketball player their holding free. Once again this my opinion so I wish you MF’ers would come for me, I served my time in the military and in the ring and I could care less about any of your opinions any dammmm way! Roy does need to train people in his own dam country and his own race, dammm America also, these some rotten bastards also.

[wrecksracer]

No, no it truly isn’t. It’s political when one professes it as a political statement. Just because you say it over and over doesn’t make it a factual statement. Now if you find me a geopolitical statement Jones has professed I’ll stand by you. Until then your statement is pure caca

It sure is a political statement not renouncing his Russian citizenship at this point in time. He must have blinders on.

[peplz]

Lol. Who needs to understand geopolitics and the intricacies of how wars start when you can just blame Soros.

Cookie cutter conspiratard

Its funny how white people love war and violence so much but be getting beat the f u c k up in combat sports. Paulie Malignaggi was doing a whole lot of wishful thinking when he said this is the era of the Eastern European fighter. Or did their era come and go within the sixth month span of the GGG and Lomachenko hype era? Lol. F U C K the Ukraine!

[Cortez]

It sure is a political statement not renouncing his Russian citizenship at this point in time. He must have blinders on.

Roy is a proud Russian. Wlad need to get off russian atheles cases, he was going after bivol too, I thought wlad was on the front line of a devestating war ? How come he has all this interview time ?

[Cortez]

You are toeing the Kremlin's line.

Russia claims NATO agreed not to expand into the Baltic states during discussions at the time of the fall of the Berlin Wall.
This is naturally nonsense, as at that point in time, all the Baltic states were part of the Soviet Union. There would be no cause for agreeing on a contingency of NATO putting its forces in part of the Soviet Union, just in case the Soviet Union happened to disintegrate. How would that even come up? Soviet Union: oh, just in case we completely fall apart, we want an agreement on your behaviour with regards to the states that our leader might voluntarily makes separate sovereign entlties.

It was obviously never discussed, as no one saw it coming.

When it did happen -- Boris Yeltsin dissolving the Soviet Union, to leave Gorbachev in charge of something that no longer existed -- the political landscape changed radically. The Baltic States, who had always regarded their part in the Soviet Union as an illegal occupation (all having been sovereign nations before 1940) chose not to become part of the then newly-formed Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS). Naturally, they looked west and chose to join NATO, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia all joining in 2004. This is in line with the view that has always been held by the West, which is that the Soviet land-grab of these countries in WWII was an unlawful occupation. Which it absolutely was.

When these countries joined Russia, there was no protest from Russia. In fact in the intervening 18 years there has been no hint of the NATO forces in these countries being hostile to Russia, even after Russia's illegal invasion of the Crimea. The hostility, of course, has eventually come from Russia, with its illegal war of agression in Ukraine.

As for what agreements were actually in place, this is the key one: in 1994, Russia, the UK, the US all agreed to the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, which was all about how to deal with the Soviet-era nukes left in Ukraine, Belarus and Hungary after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Everyone was concerned with stopping the proliferation of nuclear weapons. What was agreed (and China and France were also lesser signatories) was that Ukraine, Belarus and Hungary would agree to hand over their nukes, becoming non-nuclear states in exchange for all signatories agreeing to refrain from threatening or using military force against any of these countries.

This is key. Ukraine at the time had the world's third-largest stockpile of nuclear weapons. They agreed to give them up and the deal was Russia would never threaten or attack them.

Russia has clearly breached this agreement, one of the many ways that their aggression is unlawful and why they haven't got a moral leg to stand on (ignoring the obvious other war crimes, such as summary executions of Ukrainian civilians).

The cynical expedience of your suggestion that Ukraine should just make a deal completely ignores that they are an invaded sovereign nation, suffering at the hands of a country that already broke the deal they already had. Why exactly should they cede land to the aggressor? The one most obviously unacceptable thing when it comes to international law is a country expanding its borders by military conquest, obliterating the rights of civilians to live free lives within their own borders.

*****'s ambitions are obvious and there is zero evidence that he can be trusted given past behaviour or that he will cease agression if appeased with ceded land. In the case of dealing with world leaders, past performance is a guide to the future. He said he wasn't invading Crimea. Then Crimea fell and suddenly Russian flags went up at the airport and borders. Then he massed forces at Ukraine's other borders. We are not going to invade, he said. Then he invaded. He promises corridors for civilians to retreat from the front. Then he shells the civilians. He has zero credibility and is a proven liar. If he gains part of Ukraine, he will be back for more in the future. If he gains all of Ukraine, he will look to Poland and Finland and so on.

There's a lot of good points in there and ultimately we can agree that the world is indeed not fair and places like Russia and the USA can in fact do what they want when it comes to war.

Do I think Russia would take other eastern countries back if he could yes , do I think he could with Russia alone, no probably not.