Why does everyone give Oscar so much shìt?

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  • War Room
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    #31
    Originally posted by Hustle
    It matters because haymon took the stable in 2014. You said haymon paid fighters to leave gbp. That means it was in 2014. You posted articles from 2016 once pbc was up and running. Pbc didn't exist when Oscar lost his stable in 2014.

    Oscar loss his stable because Schaefer let haymon fighters fight on gbp cards without signing to pbc. And Schaefer was running gbp because Oscar was on drugs.

    You said haymon paid them a big bag to leave. Which is the dumbest **** ever. Haymon didn't have to pay anything. The fighters were already being managed by him and had no paper work with gbp. Oscar didn't know that because he was out drugging. When he came back and found out he had no fighters. He blamed schaefer and they went to court.
    I never said Haymon paid them to leave, what I said was this --->

    Originally posted by War Room
    Jesus Christ man, he didn't go drug out and lost it all ---> PBC threw bags of money at these guys and overpaid them. Of course they're gonna take it. Let's be reasonable here and not be a troll. WTF lol.
    Originally posted by Hustle
    Here's the link of what happened at gbp. Not some top rank rant

    Know your history or stfu


    https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ach-settlement

    "The central issue was that under Schaefer's watch many of the promotional contracts Golden Boy had with Haymon's fighters expired and were not renewed, leaving Golden Boy in a vulnerable position. Golden Boy continued to put Haymon's fighters on high-profile cards but without having nearly as much say-so over opponents or financial details had they had contracts."
    Nobody but you is dis*****g PBC grabbed some fighters, but HOW they grabbed those fighters was by overpaying them. PBC and GBP aren't the only 2 promoters on Earth guy lmao. That's exactly what I'm saying and that is exactly what happened. Those fighters have been overpayed.

    Oscar hires people to run his business, that's how it's always worked for him since day 1 of GBP. He got played and would have still gotten played if he wasn't sniffing lines of coke. Coke make you paranoid, now maybe if he was shooting heroin you would have an argument. It would have happened no matter what.

    I listed 6 sources now and that last one saying 500M so that he can overpay the fighters, different sources, including the PBC wiki that says PBS overpays fighters. What's going to do it for you, 10, 20, 30 40 independant links?

    READY FOR NAIL IN THE COFFIN?

    Originally posted by Non Arum
    Al Haymon is a misunderstood guy. He's a very, very clever. Somehow he got these mutual funds in Kansas to come up with $500 million dollars, most of which he's pissed away. He really pissed it away.

    His idea was to come in with a lot of money, and that's a lot of money, and make deals with all the networks, exclusive deals, to cut out all of the other promoters...put his product on and pay the networks for the time and then pay the fighters. It was something that made no sense.

    The idea would be that he would run everybody else out of business and then he could charge the networks what he wanted. But it was run so poorly, the ratings were so bad, that he's never going to be able to go the networks and get paid for the product. That's really hurting us, because we have a good product and then when we go to a network and they don't want to buy the product.
    SOURCE: BOXINGSCENE

    GBP wouldn't NEVER had the money to keep those guys anyway GET IT NOW???

    Do you understand now or shall I say it in Swahili?

    A man once said; and a silly man nonetheless ---> know your history or shut the fuck up. Now am I right or am I right?? LMAO, 2EZ!
    Last edited by War Room; 06-10-2022, 07:00 PM.

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    • Chaos
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      #32
      Originally posted by famicommander

      None of those guys are innocent and only an idiot would think any of them were.

      Tyson has more accusers than just the one he went to jail for. He was accused of **** in four different decades in four different states.
      Accusations mean nothing. Chicks are always looking for a handout. The one who accused Tyson also falsely accused someone else shortly before that.

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        #33
        Originally posted by War Room

        I know you're not quoting me, but just going to chime in here ---> I agree some of them could be innocent, but in all honesty ---> Tyson never in his best years could walk out and have any woman he wanted to. Brad Pitt could in most 99.9% cases and he did in fact end up sntching up Robin.



        Jesus Christ man, he didn't go drug out and lost it all ---> PBC threw bags of money at these guys and overpaid them. Of course they're gonna take it. Let's be reasonable here and not be a troll. WTF lol.
        The wh0re who accused Tyson had falsely accused another guy a couple years earlier. She's a proven liar.

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          #34
          Originally posted by chaos

          The wh0re who accused Tyson had falsely accused another guy a couple years earlier. She's a proven liar.
          I didn't think he did it and years later he gets triggered when it gets bgrought up, seems to me he's innocent.

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            #35
            Putting his boxing career and sexual preferences aside, personally speaking I've always perceived De La Hoya as a fake.

            As I posted elsewhere multiple times, there's an intriguing book by Tim Kawakami about Oscar which deserves to be read. It says a lot about the character, well before GBP and fishnets.

            Last edited by Tatabanya; 06-11-2022, 03:05 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by chaos

              Accusations mean nothing. Chicks are always looking for a handout. The one who accused Tyson also falsely accused someone else shortly before that.
              Tyson has more accusers than you can count on two hands and that doesn't include the stuff he admitted to himself, like climbing up onto the roof and throwing cinder blocks at his wife because she didn't like the cookies he baked.

              Again, he's been accused of **** in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, and 2010s on both coasts and in Vegas by women who didn't know each other or sue him for money. Not just the one he was convicted of. One of his **** accusers was one of Bill Cosby's daughters, even.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Tatabanya
                Putting his boxing career and sexual preferences aside, personally speaking I've always perceived De La Hoya as a fake.
                Fake what? He kicked everybodies ass lol.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by War Room

                  Fake what? He kicked everybodies ass lol.
                  Not in that sense, I was referring to other aspects of his persona. I could never stand that strained smile of his. Then, there's his well-documented disloyalty, depicted in fine detail in the Kawakami book. Also, the betrayal of his origins, you never knew if he was a Latino or an American, depending on his needs.

                  After starting with GBP he bought The Ring magazine and fired Nigel Collins because he was not obeying to his self-inflating commands.

                  As a fighter he was good enough, though definitely not one of my favorites.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Tatabanya

                    Not in that sense, I was referring to other aspects of his persona. I could never stand that strained smile of his. Then, there's his well-documented disloyalty, depicted in fine detail in the Kawakami book. Also, the betrayal of his origins, you never knew if he was a Latino or an American, depending on his needs.

                    After starting with GBP he bought The Ring magazine and fired Nigel Collins because he was not obeying to his self-inflating commands.

                    As a fighter he was good enough, though definitely not one of my favorites.
                    Hmm, I didn't like him at first, but once he starting winning in spectactular fashion I became a fan.

                    Sounds like that guy has a bone to pick, betrayal to his ancestors seems opinionated and firing someone at his company because they wouldn't take orders seem like bone pickish. I would have to look deeper though. Thanks for the info.

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                      #40
                      I don't have anything against Oscar except for his most recent statement about Canelo, that he would have never let Canelo fight Bivol. I think that statement goes to the heart of what's wrong with boxing. If Oscar had his way, he'd turn boxing into the WWE, and that should never happen. It can never happen because it would be the death of boxing. This is why I'm not a fan of Oscar right now. I think he's part of the problem.

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