Comments Thread For: Canelo's Stumble Shakes Up The Pound-For-Pound Opinions

[hugh grant]

Nelo should be No1, give him benefit of doubt. So if he wins big next fight he jumps up again like yo yo? You shouldn't be penalised for reaching for stars because fighters will just stay safe in their lane bud will be at 147 all his life not getting spencevfight.
Fury can't be above usyk. If fury beats usyk then yes. Must give fury incentive to comeback

[koolq360]

This List Sucks also where the charlos at. This some ESPN LIST NBF in affect in this weak ass list.

[YGriffith]

There's no clear P4P n1 as of right now, until we get an undisputed welterweight, and what did Inoue's bum ass ever did to be ranked high on most of these lists.

[Jab jab boom]

Nelo should be No1, give him benefit of doubt. So if he wins big next fight he jumps up again like yo yo? You shouldn't be penalised for reaching for stars because fighters will just stay safe in their lane bud will be at 147 all his life not getting spencevfight.
Fury can't be above usyk. If fury beats usyk then yes. Must give fury incentive to comeback

he wasn’t reaching for the stars. He thought he assessed the risk correctly as he’s done for years, based on bivols last 2 performances and was wrong. As for him still deserving to be #1, name one fighter ever who got their ass whooped by a significant underdog and kept their pound for pound slot. Be real.

[Knuckle sandwich]

Had Crawford already fought Spence and beaten him he'd be in the number 1 spot,.... Simples

[SteveM]

Canelo lost to GGG first fight beat him the 2nd imo. He has 3 clear losses - Floyd, GGG and Bivol - but he has tested himself more than the other fighters on the list.

My P4P list is based on who has tested themselves the most. This means clearing up a weight division and then moving up and beating a champ or top contenders or just plain taking difficult fights. This makes it difficult for HWs to get a decent shake so they get a shout-out depending on how they dominate. Lack of recent momentum sees a fall in rank.

A note on all this 'if they were all at the same weight speculation' - if you put Fury at 147 does he suddenly become some slick boxer, better mover than Crawford? How do you even figure that out? If you put Inoue at HW does he remain a monster there - I can't even get my head around that. This way of measuring P4P is just way way too subjective. Better to figure out who has best resumes (proven) and then possibly go by skills and eyeball test for unproven fighters.

1/ Canelo - At 154 fought Lara, Mayweather and Trout. At 160 Golovkin twice and Jacobs. Cleared out a weak 168 (but nobody else did or even tried) Took on former but faded champ Kov and top 2 champ Bivol
2/ Crawford - 135 he was a weight bully but at 140 he unified. At 147 he hasn't dominated but he has beaten competent fighters and a still very good Porter.
3/ Usyk - cleared out a very good CW division and then beat unified champ Joshua which is something as people forget when he moved up to HW most said he was too small.
4/ Inoue - Champ at 108, 112 and now 118 plus he took on Donaire and beat him - Donaire is HOF already.
5/ Jermell - has unified a very competitive JMW division. A loss and a draw but he has avenged them emphatically
6/ Spence - he has beaten all the best fighters at 147 bar Bud. And more importantly looked great doing so.
7/ Lomachenko - best weight is 130 but his win over Gary Russell at 126 is underrated. At 135 he is fighting at a weight where he is physically compromised.
8/ Fury - he took on the boogeyman at HW and beat him 3 times in 2 different styles. The same boogeyman who some said was the hardest hitting boxer ever.
9/ Josh Taylor - unified, or was until a week ago or so but though he beat Ramirez and Prograis they were close fights and he lost to Caterall
10/ Shakur - based on win over a good Valdez and mostly obvious skills - nobody beats him at 130 and possibly 135. Ennis is elite but I can't say he'd def. beat all at 147.

[SteveM]

Had Crawford already fought Spence and beaten him he'd be in the number 1 spot,.... Simples

Yes he would. Unified at 140 and 147 is a massive achievement. That's why ya gotta fight the fights though - see my post above.

[MC Hammer]

Charlo becomes undisputed by knocking out 3 belt holders, but somehowTaylor,who arguably lost his last fight, and GGG who has done absolutely nothing in years, have made the list. These lists mean nothing

[jamel2004]

Yall left Jermell Charlo and Tank off the list. Yall list is garbage. Jermell has beaten everyone in his division and unified. GGG has done nothing but avoid Jermall charlo and Andrade. GGG could of unified in the last 4 years but he didn't because he knows Andrade or Charlo could beat him. When you really study GGG he never fought slick fighters. Yes he is powerful but his handlers were worried about him getting his head boxed off.

[BodyBagz]

Who else is taking chances like Nelo is ?