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  • #51
    Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
    You did see Ggg last 2 fights…life and death with Dveryenchenko, and didnt look sharp or impressive in his last. Like “Breadman” says - a pressure fighter like Ggg declines very quickly after their prime. Ggg is way past it - slower, easy to hit clean, and seems to gas quicker. The added weight is definitely not going to help, will just be an even bigger weight advantage for Canelo. And expect Canelo to “walk” through Ggg…Canelo has a granite chin and already took a prime Ggg power for 24 rds four years ago. Ggg was “special” in his prime…the mystique and fear are long gone. Canelo should have manned up and fought the 3rd fight soon after the 2nd like everyone wanted. He apparently didnt want to go through another brutal back and forth fight against a prime Ggg, he opted for easier fights. Ggg is just a shell of his former intimidating self and will take a beating from Canelo like most are predicting.
    Yes, I saw most of GGG's last 20 fights. He's certainly declined from his peak form, but he remains a world class fighter. I thought he should have lost against Deryvyanchenko, but that fight has virtually no relevance to a fight with Canelo because you could hardly find a style more different from Canelo's. Deryvyanchenko is a strong, physical volume puncher who set an unbelievable pace and just outworked an older GGG. Canelo, on the other hand, fights sloooow. GGG outworked and outboxed him twice already. Canelo has slow feet. He comes straight forward and looks to set traps and counter them. He had some success with that strategy in the GGG rematch, but, I think he still lost that fight (he definitely lost the first one). GGG was over 40 against Murata and he hadn't fought in nearly two years. In my opinion, considering those circumstances, his performance against Murata was amazing. Murata was probably bed ridden for two weeks after that fight. That's the kind of leather GGG put on him and he will land on Canelo too. The one thing that GGG has certainly lost is handspeed and reflex/reaction time. If that's more a result of age than rust, then that will cost him against Canelo in Sept, but Canelo's style and GGG's fight IQ are still going to keep him in a close fight. GGG's chin is as good or better than Canelo's. He probably doesn't take it as well to the body as he once did and his lungs aren't what they used to be, but if you watch even his older fights, GGG often looks like he's breathing hard early in the fight. His mental toughness and great engine/heart keep him going though. He looked gassed after the first round against Murata, yet he became more dominant as the rounds wore on. His abiity to land clean, hard punches late into a fight are testament to his still high skill level and his mental and physical strengh. GGG is still special and he'll show it again in September.
    Last edited by NachoMan; 05-26-2022, 03:14 PM.
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    • #52
      Originally posted by NachoMan View Post

      Yes, I saw most of GGG's last 20 fights. He's certainly declined from his peak form, but he remains a world class fighter. I thought he should have lost against Deryvyanchenko, but that fight has virtually no relevance to a fight with Canelo because you could hardly find a style more different than Canelo. Deryvyanchenko is a strong, physical volume puncher who just outworked an older GGG. Canelo, on the other hand, fights sloooow. GGG outworked and outboxed him twice already. Canelo has slow feet. He comes straight forward and looks to set traps and counter them. He had some success with that strategy in the GGG rematch, but, I think he still lost that fight (he definitely lost the first one). GGG was over 40 against Murata and he hadn't fought in nearly two years. In my opinion, considering those circumstances, his performance against Murata was amazing. Murata was probably bed ridden for two weeks after that fight. That's the kind of leather GGG put on him and he will land on Canelo too. The one thing that GGG has certainly lost is handspeed and reaction time. If that's more a result of age than rust, then that will cost him against Canelo in Sept, but Canelo's style and GGG's fight IQ are still going to keep him in a close fight. GGG's chin is as good or better than Canelo's. He probably doesn't take it as well to the body as he once did and his lungs aren't what they used to be, but if you watch even his older fights, GGG often looks like he's breathing hard early in the fight. His mentatl toughness and great engine/heart keep him going though. He looked gassed after the first round against Murata, yet he became more dominant as the rounds wore on. His abiity to land clean, hard punches late into a fight are testament to his still high skill level and his mental and physical strengh. GGG is still special and he'll show it again in September.
      stop trying to build Golovkin up to make this fight look better for Canelo. Golovkin was prime when he fought Matthew Macklin. He was post prime when he thought Brook, Jacobs and Canelo 1 - now he is just a shadow of himself.

      Murata hadn't fought for 2 years either - so GGG overcoming rust wasn't an issue - they both were heavy with rust. Murata's best wins are over C level fighters - Golovkin can take nothing from that fight.

      Canelo should get a stoppage rounds 5-7 against Golovkin and the bookies have Golovkin as a 4-1 outsider.
      Last edited by SteveM; 05-26-2022, 03:15 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post








        wow, congratulations..... you managed to fit sooooo many childish excuses into that tiny little post


        you crybabies went from..... " Canelo would never have the balls to fight GGG "..... to..... " GGG has no chance ".....


        this is the funny part..... despite the fact that Bullshltkin has never had a career-defining fight..... and despite the fact that Bullshltkin does not have a signature win on his shabby resume..... Bullshltkin totally refused to fight THREE champions in his own division, because he preferred to sit on his hands (again) and beg Ca$hnelo for another payday..... and what did you crybaby bltches decide to do?... you decided to rage at Canelo, and blame him for giving Bullshltkin the only thing that he has ever wanted LOOOOOOOOOOL


        come on kid, we all know whats up... despite the fact that Ca$hnelo agreed to give Beggarkin exactly what he wanted, you fangirls are crying your widdle eyes out because you KNOW that the fat red kid is gonna push Beggarkin's shlt in





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        ...
        How much is Eddy H paying U ??

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        • #54
          Originally posted by SteveM View Post

          stop trying to build Golovkin up to make this fight look better for Canelo. Golovkin was prime when he fought Matthew Macklin. He was post prime when he thought Brook, Jacobs and Canelo 1 - now he is just a shadow of himself.

          Murata hadn't fought for 2 years either - so GGG overcoming rust wasn't an issue - they both were heavy with rust. Murata's best wins are over C level fighters - Golovkin can take nothing from that fight.

          Canelo should get a stoppage rounds 5-7 against Golovkin and the bookies have Golovkin as a 4-1 outsider.
          Omg. Caleb Plant lasts longer than GGG? You need to spend more time watching fights than posting goofy drivel about them. Find a moment in either of the first two Canelo-GGG fights where Canelo had GGG any where close to hurt, much less out on his feet ready to be KO'd.
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          • #55
            Golovkin never talks about Canelo unless reporters ask him. Then he gets annoyed. Golovkin in Canelo's head though I think this time he clearly beats Golovkin.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by NachoMan View Post

              Omg. Caleb Plant lasts longer than GGG? You need to spend more time watching fights than posting goofy drivel about them. Find a moment in either of the first two Canelo-GGG fights where Canelo had GGG any where close to hurt, much less out on his feet ready to be KO'd.
              What has Plant got to do with anything? GGG is/was sturdy but 4 years have passed now. Golovkin is noticeably worse. Canelo is much better. You are ignoring all the obvious signs because you have an agenda to make this fight something more than it is in order to boost Canelo's legacy - If GGG starts against Canelo like he did against Murata he'll be done by mid-fight.

              Care to comment on why the bookies have Golovkin as a 4-1 underdog? -4-1 means they see Golovkin only has an outsider's chance to win the fight.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by SteveM View Post

                stop trying to build Golovkin up to make this fight look better for Canelo. Golovkin was prime when he fought Matthew Macklin. He was post prime when he thought Brook, Jacobs and Canelo 1 - now he is just a shadow of himself.

                Murata hadn't fought for 2 years either - so GGG overcoming rust wasn't an issue - they both were heavy with rust. Murata's best wins are over C level fighters - Golovkin can take nothing from that fight.

                Canelo should get a stoppage rounds 5-7 against Golovkin and the bookies have Golovkin as a 4-1 outsider.
                agree…add in the huge weight advantage Canelo will have when they step into the ring and the odds should be 6-1.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
                  agree…add in the huge weight advantage Canelo will have when they step into the ring and the odds should be 6-1.
                  we are on the same page bud.

                  Imagine if Canelo hadn't fought Bivol at all - the odds would be 8-1
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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Haka View Post

                    How much is Eddy H paying U ??

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                    Everyone wanted to see Canelo/Ggg go toe to toe again a 3rd time immediately after the 2nd with the 1st two being so close. Canelo chose to move on to easier competition and let 4yrs go by knowing Ggg would be 40 with obviously diminished skills. This is Canelos last big fight that will
                    draw casuals, he knows that and is taking advantage of the low risk - big reward 40 yr old Ggg presents four years later. It would still be close to 50/50 fight then instead of 4-1 now.
                    Last edited by IRONCHINHAGLER; 05-26-2022, 04:42 PM.
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                    • #60
                      No one made you invent your own weight class to avoid Golovkin, bro. No one else made you fail that drug test, either.
                      Last edited by paulf; 05-26-2022, 04:51 PM.

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