Ohara Davies might be getting the WBA title shot at 140.

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    Ohara Davies might be getting the WBA title shot at 140.

    So the WBA are basically asking the top 6 contenders to all beg for the title shot.

    Anyway apparently there’s a good chance OD gets it, I reckon it’s gonna be because Barroso pulled out of a scheduled fight with Davies last November.
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    Davis got gifted a win against the ghost of Miguel Vazquez. Total joke if he gets the shot.

    Given the six names available it should be Regis Prograis or Sandor Martin. None of the other names even belong in the top 10.

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      Originally posted by famicommander
      Davis got gifted a win against the ghost of Miguel Vazquez. Total joke if he gets the shot.

      Given the six names available it should be Regis Prograis or Sandor Martin. None of the other names even belong in the top 10.
      The WBA’s top 10 at 140 is disgraceful isn’t it. Ritson is the second guy in that top 10 who got a gift vs Vazquez.

      Hopefully, Prograis, Akhmedov or Martin get the shot.

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        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        The WBA’s top 10 at 140 is disgraceful isn’t it. Ritson is the second guy in that top 10 who got a gift vs Vazquez.

        Hopefully, Prograis, Akhmedov or Martin get the shot.
        All four alphabet soups have pathetic top 10s in general across every weight class.

        They don't even pretend they're ranking the 10 best fighters in a division. They're ranking fighters moving along their own predetermined paths towards their own worthless belts.

        The TBRB rankings are all that really matters since The Ring is owned by a promoter now.

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          Originally posted by famicommander

          All four alphabet soups have pathetic top 10s in general across every weight class.

          They don't even pretend they're ranking the 10 best fighters in a division. They're ranking fighters moving along their own predetermined paths towards their own worthless belts.

          The TBRB rankings are all that really matters since The Ring is owned by a promoter now.
          The WBA’s are next level though. If you take the top 3 from each ABC at 140 for example:

          WBC WBA IBF WBO
          Zepeda Puello Ponce Paro
          Ramirez Barroso Matias Ramirez
          Prograis Davies Paro Catterall

          That’s possibly the worst top 3 I’ve seen since they had Bryan, Oquendo and Charr top 3 at Heavyweight.

          TBRB and Ring are the only one’s I see as legitimate. Despite the ring’s affiliation to GBP, I’ve never seen any clear signs of bias in fairness.


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            Dang

            Good for him !

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              #7
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

              The WBA’s are next level though. If you take the top 3 from each ABC at 140 for example:

              WBC WBA IBF WBO
              Zepeda Puello Ponce Paro
              Ramirez Barroso Matias Ramirez
              Prograis Davies Paro Catterall

              That’s possibly the worst top 3 I’ve seen since they had Bryan, Oquendo and Charr top 3 at Heavyweight.

              TBRB and Ring are the only one’s I see as legitimate. Despite the ring’s affiliation to GBP, I’ve never seen any clear signs of bias in fairness.

              Once the Ring allowed a vacant title fight between people outside the top 2 their credibility went out the window forever with me. They became just another alphabet soup looking to fill a vacancy rather than crown a champion. That's why TBRB exists.

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                #8
                Originally posted by famicommander

                Once the Ring allowed a vacant title fight between people outside the top 2 their credibility went out the window forever with me. They became just another alphabet soup looking to fill a vacancy rather than crown a champion. That's why TBRB exists.
                What fight was that?

                Ring are completely legitimate for me. I think their ratings are generally very accurate.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                  What fight was that?

                  Ring are completely legitimate for me. I think their ratings are generally very accurate.
                  The Ring had the Klitschko brothers #1 and #2 but crowned a Ring Champion with #1 Wlad vs #3 Ruslan Chagaev in 2009.

                  They also had Jeff Lacy #3 when they sanctioned a Ring Magazine title fight against Calzaghe. Kessler was #2 in their own rankings at the time in 2006.

                  As of May 2012, these were the Ring's title policies:
                  The Ring title can be awarded when the No. 1 and No. 2 fighters face one another or when the No. 1 and 2 contenders choose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded The Ring belt. In addition, there are now seven ways for a fighter to lose his title:
                  • The champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.
                  • The champion moves to another weight class.
                  • The champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.
                  • The champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight).
                  • The champion does not schedule a fight with a top five contender from any weight class for two years.
                  • The champion retires.
                  • The champion tests positive for a banned substance.
                  They later backtracked a bit to say that the #1 can fight the #3 "if #3 is determined to be worthy". They were going to sanction Pacquiao vs Spence as a Ring Magazine title fight even though they had Spence and Crawford in the top 2.

                  These changes are literally why Springs Toledo and the others resigned from The Ring to found the TBRB in the first place.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by famicommander
                    The Ring had the Klitschko brothers #1 and #2 but crowned a Ring Champion with #1 Wlad vs #3 Ruslan Chagaev in 2009.

                    They also had Jeff Lacy #3 when they sanctioned a Ring Magazine title fight against Calzaghe. Kessler was #2 in their own rankings at the time in 2006.

                    As of May 2012, these were the Ring's title policies:
                    The Ring title can be awarded when the No. 1 and No. 2 fighters face one another or when the No. 1 and 2 contenders choose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded The Ring belt. In addition, there are now seven ways for a fighter to lose his title:
                    • The champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.
                    • The champion moves to another weight class.
                    • The champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.
                    • The champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight).
                    • The champion does not schedule a fight with a top five contender from any weight class for two years.
                    • The champion retires.
                    • The champion tests positive for a banned substance.
                    They later backtracked a bit to say that the #1 can fight the #3 "if #3 is determined to be worthy". They were going to sanction Pacquiao vs Spence as a Ring Magazine title fight even though they had Spence and Crawford in the top 2.

                    These changes are literally why Springs Toledo and the others resigned from The Ring to found the TBRB in the first place.
                    I was fine with the Wlad-Chagaev decision. It’s not like Wlad and Vitali could ever fight each other so that was the right call for me.

                    I disagree with the Calzaghe-Lacy sanctioning but it wasn’t an egregious decision either. Joe went on to beat Kessler anyway thankfully to clear up any doubt over establishing a lineal title.

                    Pac-Spence would have definitely been wrong, especially considering a lot of people considered Crawford as the #1 in the division.

                    All in all though man, I think the Ring remain a generally upstanding organisation. I rarely have any issue with their rankings, rulings etc. Big fan of TBRB too, love the way you can look at their rankings archives month by month too. I hope they remain independent.

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