Canelo looked worse than he did vs Mayweather

[Queen_Leia]

You must be kidding...lol did you not see the 2 GGG fights lol

No I'm not.

[_Maxi]

Canelo nor Manny would ever beat Floyd. He’s too good for either.

And still Floyd had to clinch a lot against Pacquiao.

[Queen_Leia]

Those "eye-catching" punches, are supposed to catch the eye and cut or close it. They caught basically nothing but air or arms. Alvarez showed up as being a very ordinary pug..

It won him the 1st 4 rounds on the corrupt judges scorecards before he tired.

[Queen_Leia]

Yes and lost every single one of them. He's a cherry pickah and if you don't know it by now you're head over heels, helplesssly in love.

It doesn't matter if he lost...it matter if he fought them, which is what you are saying he did. This is what we want all fighter to do, fight the very best whether win, lose or draw.

[Queen_Leia]

If Bivol embarrassed canelo and canelo humiliated those 3 then is it really fair to say that Plant, Sauders, Smith are 1 letter grade below Bivol? Clearly they're at least 2 levels below, so if Bivol is an A (truly he's more of an A-), that makes Smith, Sauders, Plant C level fighters at best.

That's not how boxing works...styles make fights

Does anyone here actually believe that Bivol has a chance against Beterbiev? He may pull it off but I think Beterbiev has to be the favorite.

50/50...

And if Bivol and a guy like Shakur Stevenson, Bud Crawford, Demetrius Andrade was the same size, would anyone actually take Bivol over them?

I'd choose him against this version of Bud & Boo Boo. Stevenson would very special, at any weigh class.

[War Room]

It doesn't matter if he lost...it matter if he fought them, which is what you are saying he did. This is what we want all fighter to do, fight the very best whether win, lose or draw.

He doesn't though, he cherry picks and this time it went wrong.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Everyone is a C-level fighter...Jesus Christ, did Canelo fight any elite fighters beside Mayweather & Bivol?

Bivol is a good, skilled boxer, but far from elite. Neither was GGG.
Elites are in a special category of their own. You'll know when you see one.
I like how one guy described Bivol as 'genetic."

[Queen_Leia]

Ggg...that was about it. He beat no one elite in their prime. His Mexicans were getting bamboozled for a long time. Anyone with sense knew this would happen..that's why he didn't fight Andrade or Charlo. Charlo cam knock him out and Andrade is so defensive that he can humiliate Canelo....

I didn't say beat...I said fought.


So even if he fought 1 elite fighter (GGG as you proclaim), that's still a elite fighter.

[Queen_Leia]

He doesn't though, he cherry picks and this time it went wrong.

You just said that he fought elite fighters and lost...as long as he fought them, that all that matters.

All fighter at the mid-to- top level have a cherry pick in there. It's apart of boxing.

[Queen_Leia]

Bivol is a good, skilled boxer, but far from elite. Neither was GGG.
Elites are in a special category of their own. You'll know when you see one.
I like how one guy described Bivol as 'genetic."

Alvarez has some elite fighters on his resume, I wasn't referring to Bivol tho. Bivol has to beat more than just Alvarez to be consider elite.