Freddie Roach: "We have a slander case in the works against Floyd Mayweather Sr"

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  • Vasyl’s dad
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    #81
    Originally posted by Al Haymon
    Tom,

    I'm trying to have a discussion with you. You are being as evasive as possible. Your non-answer tells me all that I need to know.

    Thank you, sir.

    Sorry, but I deal with what actually goes on,

    not made up dramas in your head.

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    • Sin City
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      #82
      Originally posted by OnePunch
      Roach is an idiot.

      Besides that, anyone who thinks this "case" would even survive summary judgement doesnt know very much about the law. To win a slander or defamation case, you must PROVE that the party making the statement KNEW or should have KNOWN that the statement was false, AND (not "or") that the statement was made solely to damage the other party. Floyd Sr would have no way of knowing one way or the other if Pac is juicing, so its impossible to say he KNEW that statement was false. The case is a loser from the get go.

      It's just funny to hear this coming from big mouth Roach, who consistently calls other fighters "bums", or "shot", or whatever. He can dish it out, but he sure cant take it. LOL

      Its also funny to see the double standard at work here. After Nate whipped Diaz, Team Diaz made statements to the press accusing Nate of being on the juice, and nobody gave a ****. But say the same thing about the chosen one (Pac) and oh my god...... lolol
      Manny Pacquiao TKO4 Campbell.
      Ref stops it on the ropes.

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      • Al Haymon
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        #83
        Originally posted by NELSON MANDELA
        damn right.

        LEONARD come back after few years lay off and he fought BEST fight out there and also a bigger guy.

        He didnt chose blown up featherweight JMM for his comeback return.
        Leonard isn't Floyd. Floyd isn't Leonard. What does history from a different weight class 20 years ago have to do with today and now?

        I just asked the question: Would manny pacquiao come off a 2 year layoff and take a Mayweather fight. If the asnswer is "yes", somebody probably would have said it by now.

        Or why would Manny want the ring-rust version of Mayweather? Just curious.

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        • Al Haymon
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          #84
          Originally posted by Sin City
          Manny Pacquiao TKO4 Campbell.
          Ref stops it on the ropes.
          I'd like to see that fight. Pac is the much better puncher, and Bradley has a lot of youth and athleticism.

          Plus, it would give Pac an opportunity to put to bed those pesky complaints that are going around.

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          • Al Haymon
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            #85
            Originally posted by Tom Flores

            Sorry, but I deal with what actually goes on,

            not made up dramas in your head.
            No worries, chico. I have my answer.

            I come on to discuss boxing. I don't get ****** into the arguments and flame wars.

            Salud.

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            • RodBarker
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              #86
              Originally Posted by Al Haymon View Post
              Tom,

              I'm trying to have a discussion with you. You are being as evasive as possible. Your non-answer tells me all that I need to know.

              Thank you, sir.
              He wont answer because you are right , its how these boys work .

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              • MindBat
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                #87
                Originally posted by OnePunch
                Roach is an idiot.

                Besides that, anyone who thinks this "case" would even survive summary judgement doesnt know very much about the law. To win a slander or defamation case, you must PROVE that the party making the statement KNEW or should have KNOWN that the statement was false, AND (not "or") that the statement was made solely to damage the other party. Floyd Sr would have no way of knowing one way or the other if Pac is juicing, so its impossible to say he KNEW that statement was false. The case is a loser from the get go.

                It's just funny to hear this coming from big mouth Roach, who consistently calls other fighters "bums", or "shot", or whatever. He can dish it out, but he sure cant take it. LOL

                Its also funny to see the double standard at work here. After Nate whipped Diaz, Team Diaz made statements to the press accusing Nate of being on the juice, and nobody gave a ****. But say the same thing about the chosen one (Pac) and oh my god...... lolol
                If they're going by the edited and soundbited 2 minute interview that's been circulating around here and on the net lately they're case will likely be dismissed. They'll need to provide the entire video interview as evidence cause it does not appear that Floyd Sr. was yapping alone for no reason.

                The interviewer very likely asked Sr. some or many questions that led to Sr. speculating about Manny's steroid use. Sr. stated that he thinks (believes?) Manny is using "certain supplements". What athlete doesn't?

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                • OnePunch
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Tom Flores
                  Steroid accusations are not good at any rate in todays sports world.
                  I agree 100%. But it doesnt rise to the level of a slander lawsuit........

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                  • Chuckguy
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Al Haymon
                    Tom, i invite you to answer the question. say Pac was off for any reason at all - he ran for office, he did some movies - would Arum/roach allow him to face an active Mayweather in his first fight back?

                    Thanks.

                    I'm not partisan. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
                    Ok al you are missing the point
                    Floyd retired cause he didnt want to fight Cotto or Mosley
                    that is Toms point
                    not who he is going to fight when he returns
                    of course he isnt going to fight a top WW

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Al Haymon
                      Jones sues BALCO founder, denies steroid use


                      By Edward Iwata, USA TODAY
                      SAN FRANCISCO — Olympic track champion Marion Jones filed a lawsuit Wednesday against Victor Conte, the steroids dealing suspect at the heart of the sports doping scandal, saying he falsely accused her of using performance-enhancing drugs.

                      Marion Jones filed a $25 million defamation lawsuit Wednesday against BALCO founder Victor Conte.

                      By Susan Ragan, AP

                      Jones and her attorneys deny the allegations made by Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative founder Conte during interviews in early December with ABC's 20/20 and ESPN The Magazine.

                      In the interviews, Conte accused Jones of cheating her way to glory by using a designer steroid, human growth hormone, insulin and the endurance-boosting hormone erythropoietin (EPO) before and during the 2000 Summer Games in Sydney, where Jones became the first woman to win five track and field medals in a single Games.

                      Jones seeks $25 million for potentially lost endorsement money.

                      Lin Wood, an Atlanta libel attorney, called the suit "a public-relations tactic." If Jones were serious, she also would have sued ABC and ESPN, Wood said; Conte does not have the resources to defend the suit or pay a judgment. Nor is the case likely to decide the issue of Jones' alleged steroids use, he said.

                      "I don't think you can restore your reputation with a lawsuit that is simply not going to be defended
                      ," said Wood, who represents the accuser in the Kobe Bryant **** case and Richard ***ell, falsely accused of the Olympic bombing.

                      According to the lawsuit, Conte's attorneys early on said Conte never provided steroids to Jones. But in a "sudden about-face," Conte has changed his story to "curry favor with prosecutors," grab the media spotlight and make money, the lawsuit charges.

                      Conte and three other men, including Barry Bonds' trainer, Greg Anderson, face federal charges of steroid distribution and money laundering. Their trial is expected to start in the spring.

                      According to the lawsuit and other documents filed with the lawsuit, Jones:

                      • Never has taken "banned performance-enhancing drugs" and passed 160 drug tests over the last five years, including testing at the 2000 Olympic Games.

                      • Passed a lie-detector test in June by Ronald Homer, a polygraph examiner and former FBI special agent. Jones answered "no" when asked whether she had ever used performance-enhancing drugs.

                      • Has not used steroids based on blood and urine tests since 2001 that were analyzed by her doctor, Richard Ferro of the Duke University Medical Center.

                      Conte, however, won't budge.

                      In an e-mail statement, he said: "This is nothing more than a PR stunt by a desperate woman, who has regularly used drugs throughout her career. ... I stand by everything I said on the 20/20 special. I am telling the truth, and Marion is lying."

                      ***

                      Contributing: **** Patrick, USA TODAY



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                      WHITE PLAINS, New York (CNN) -- Olympic track star Marion Jones was sentenced in a federal court Friday to six months in prison, two years of probation and community service for lying to federal prosecutors investigating the use of performance-enhancing substances.

                      Marion Jones was smiling when she arrived Friday at the courthouse, but her smile soon disappeared.

                      She said through her attorney that she would like to start serving her sentence as soon as possible, and Judge Kenneth Karas set March 11 as the "surrender date" unless a designated jail is able to accept her sooner.

                      Jones had pleaded guilty in October to charges of lying to a federal agent in 2003 about her use of steroids, and was sentenced on two counts -- getting six months in prison on the first count and two months on the second, to be served concurrently.
                      Point Set Match!
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                      good one

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