Would you agree Canelo will be #1 at lhw if he beats Bivol clearly?

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  • kushking
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    #1

    Would you agree Canelo will be #1 at lhw if he beats Bivol clearly?

    I say yes,he would have beat better comp than Beterbiev & he would have done it as the lil guy giving up height,reach,weight
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    #2
    If he knocks him out I think he's tied with Beterbiev.

    Beterbiev KOd Gvozdyk who I consider equal to Bivol. Maybe Bivol's a little better but they're close.

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      #3
      Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
      If he knocks him out I think he's tied with Beterbiev.

      Beterbiev KOd Gvozdyk who I consider equal to Bivol. Maybe Bivol's a little better but they're close.
      Gvoz was a flash in the pan imo,he retired immediately afterwards after 1 decent win

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        #4
        No because Bivol's #2 not #1.

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        • kushking
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          #5
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          No because Bivol's #2 not #1.
          but the ranking Beterbiev has is only based on beating Gvoz,Bivol & kov would trump Beterbievs wins & in only 2 fights

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            #6
            Beterbiev is the lineal champion. He beat Gvozdyk, who beat Adonis Stevenson, who beat Chad Dawson.

            Beterbiev also has two belts instead of just one, and is about to fight for a third against Smith.

            Beterbiev is the legitimate champion of the division until he loses or changes weight classes.

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              #7
              Originally posted by kushking

              Gvoz was a flash in the pan imo,he retired immediately afterwards after 1 decent win
              He fought similar comp to Bivol, but also beat Stevenson who is a better win than anyone Bivol beat. Even a faded Stevenson.

              Stopped Chilemba, close fight, but nobody rly looks great aghast Chilemba even Bivol.

              Looked great in his win over Gonzalez after Gonzalez beat Pascal IMO.

              Their resume's are similar.

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                #8
                Originally posted by kushking

                but the ranking Beterbiev has is only based on beating Gvoz,Bivol & kov would trump Beterbievs wins & in only 2 fights
                Doesn't matter.

                Beterbiev is #1, he'll have to beat the #1 to be the #1.

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                • kushking
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

                  He fought similar comp to Bivol, but also beat Stevenson who is a better win than anyone Bivol beat. Even a faded Stevenson.

                  Stopped Chilemba, close fight, but nobody rly looks great aghast Chilemba even Bivol.

                  Looked great in his win over Gonzalez after Gonzalez beat Pascal IMO.

                  Their resume's are similar.
                  But Bivol beat Joe Smith clearly,& has been a champ for many yrs

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by kushking

                    but the ranking Beterbiev has is only based on beating Gvoz,Bivol & kov would trump Beterbievs wins & in only 2 fights
                    Marcus Browne
                    Oleksandr Gvozdyk
                    Callum Johnson
                    Gabriel Campillo
                    Tavoris Cloud

                    That's a much deeper resume than Bivol's at 175. Betebiev beat former champions, then won a belt, then unified it by beating the reigning lineal champion, and he's fighting another belt holder next.

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