Did HOLYFIELD have the least amount of weaknesses of any heavyweight?

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  • Science
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    Did HOLYFIELD have the least amount of weaknesses of any heavyweight?

    I'm not saying that Holyfield could beat every heavyweight in a 1 on 1 matchup. I'd easily favor Lewis, the Klitchko's, Bowe, Fury over him because of size, but I'm talking sheer skill. Did Holyfield have the least amount of weaknesses of any heavyweight in history?

    Also Cris Byrd was very skilled too, he just punched like a super middleweight
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    There was nothing skill wise, that he could not do. Evander Holyfield was the complete fighter.

    Inside fighting, boxing, ambush type fighting, defense was good, durability off the charts, endurance off the charts etc.

    The only slight, every so slight drawback? Was that he was not a monster puncher. But he still hit hard enough, and was destructive.

    I just don't think he had that ability to change the game in a instant with the super elite fighters.

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    • Rockybigblower
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      #3
      The man really only had one weakness....women.

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        All the PED's did his heart in so probably that.

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        • hhh1200
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          I am not sure about weaknesses but Whyte needs to study how he crossed his arms and used his forearms to protect from uppercuts.

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            #6
            Originally posted by hhh1200
            I am not sure about weaknesses but Whyte needs to study how he crossed his arms and used his forearms to protect from uppercuts.
            Holyfield was actually very susceptible to being hit hard with uppercuts, given his propension to fighting head-on. Tyson, Lewis and especially Bowe (see the famous 10th round in their first fight) all found openings for the uppercut, doing damage sometimes.

            If anything, Whyte should borrow at least a fraction of Evander's chin and willpower.

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              Originally posted by Tatabanya

              Holyfield was actually very susceptible to being hit hard with uppercuts, given his propension to fighting head-on. Tyson, Lewis and especially Bowe (see the famous 10th round in their first fight) all found openings for the uppercut, doing damage sometimes.

              If anything, Whyte should borrow at least a fraction of Evander's chin and willpower.
              Yeah, I was about to say this. Thankfully he had a good chin and even better recovery powers. And, he had the balls to clap back after losing an exchange. Very tough fighter

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                Holyfield was susceptible to uppercuts and mobile jabbers if he preferred a fight it was he wanted a stationary target to work over . I don’t think there such thing as a single person with the least weaknesses skill wise . If I had to pick one it would really be Mike Tyson under Rooney because the only thing that really you can detract from that fighter was he got lazy in clinches .

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                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  Holyfield was susceptible to uppercuts and mobile jabbers if he preferred a fight it was he wanted a stationary target to work over . I don’t think there such thing as a single person with the least weaknesses skill wise . If I had to pick one it would really be Mike Tyson under Rooney because the only thing that really you can detract from that fighter was he got lazy in clinches .
                  Tyson got lazy in clinches, because you can't fight like Tyson fought for 12 rounds effectively. He punch too much power into each shot. That's why I'd favor a guy like David Tua over Tyson and Tua was never even a champion in my opinion.

                  Tyson should have fought more like Tua, be explosive SOMETIMES and relaxed others.

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    Originally posted by Science

                    Tyson got lazy in clinches, because you can't fight like Tyson fought for 12 rounds effectively. He punch too much power into each shot. That's why I'd favor a guy like David Tua over Tyson and Tua was never even a champion in my opinion.

                    Tyson should have fought more like Tua, be explosive SOMETIMES and relaxed others.
                    Tyson let his conditioning go. That's the problem. He was good at around 215 pounds or so. It was when he went up to around 230 that he didn't have the stamina he once had. He was slower because of that. He weight 235 pounds for Lennox. Those extra 15 to 20 pounds made a huge difference and reflected a laziness to his training. You combine that with the loss of Teddy Atlas and Kevin Rooney or the loss of Rooney, and you have disaster. At that time, only Rooney and Atlas knew how to train effectively for the peekaboo style. His coaches later didn't train effective head movement, or shifting or any of the other things that made Tyson a killer.

                    So those things combined, along with a messy personal life, led to weaker performances overall and especially in the later rounds.
                    Last edited by Cypocryphy; 06-21-2022, 05:08 AM.

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