Did HOLYFIELD have the least amount of weaknesses of any heavyweight?

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  • Science
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    #21
    Originally posted by tritium_arma
    The 90's was peak steroid usage I'm almost certain. Evan Fields was so roided up I don't know how he would do without the juice.
    I agree, Holyfield's heart condition that he had from about 94-96 probably came from a bad batch of roids. Tommy Morrison admitted to using roids, Oliver Mccall admitted to using, Razor Ruddock and a few others.

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    • Mike_b
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      #22
      Originally posted by Science
      I'm not saying that Holyfield could beat every heavyweight in a 1 on 1 matchup. I'd easily favor Lewis, the Klitchko's, Bowe, Fury over him because of size, but I'm talking sheer skill. Did Holyfield have the least amount of weaknesses of any heavyweight in history?

      Also Cris Byrd was very skilled too, he just punched like a super middleweight
      Chris Byrd is paying for the abuse at fighting up at hw. 2 shoulder surgeries and two replaced hips me thinks. With his pillow fistedness he had trouble sleeping the night before the Tua fight (which he won) cause Tua was an impressive specimen of freakish nature upon the weigh ins aka he was huge and Chris was scared.

      After his career he dealed with neuropathy for eleven years and needed to smoke cush cause of that. The man who retired him, Shaun George was simply a journeyman. He got sparked his second fight after the Byrd debacle or beat down I should say.

      Holyfield - Byrd was a fun fight, mainly because bryd didn't have the punching power to keep off the monster Holyfield. Holyfield was just tough mentally. Evander used to warn Bowe about the leetches on when you make it the big bucks. He told Rid**** not to cave in. Evander used to live in a 109 room mansion in Atlanta but now settles in a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment in Florida. He used to have a peculiar habit of not sightseeing. He said he planned to live a long time, so he would catch up on all the places he's been after his career.he planned to do a lot of travel.

      He knew he had Tysons number as an amateur, he knew their paths would cross in the pros.

      I think Tyson had more stunning attributes: code language in numbers (deceptively un-understandable by the other team. Quick twitch muscle speed and explosiveness. Plus small enough to employ the peek a boo style. In fact Evander once asked how did Tyson do such crazy bagwork? Holy copied it but his arms on his frame were too long being 6 foot 2 or so. He wasn't able to throw those quick combos like Tyson did. Another example of an explosive puncher is David Lemieux.

      One poster was right: it takes tons of energy fighting cus' style. Tyson never really knew how to play defense or take rounds off, relax, and chill. He had about one successful round against Lewis before his over weight weight gain stamina was gone.

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      • BodyBagz
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        #23
        He wasn't a concussive puncher.
        He had beautiful combos though.

        Was lured into some unnecessary slugfests.
        He couldn't box his way around Steward and Cooper ?

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        • JohnnyRebel
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          #24
          Evan Fields was a performance enhancing drugs cheater. He was also super dirty. His headbutts did serious damage. Rahman had like a big boob on his head from a Holyfield headbutt. The guy is overrated. He lost plenty of fights while being a cheater.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
            All the PED's did his heart in so probably that.
            do not know how he is still alive

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            • Science
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              #26
              Originally posted by JohnnyRebel
              Evan Fields was a performance enhancing drugs cheater. He was also super dirty. His headbutts did serious damage. Rahman had like a big boob on his head from a Holyfield headbutt. The guy is overrated. He lost plenty of fights while being a cheater.
              Prime Holyfield only lost to BOWE, wouldn't have beat Lewis in his prime though. He had a heart issue with Bowe as well as Moore.

              He was a cheater though.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #27
                Originally posted by Science
                I'm not saying that Holyfield could beat every heavyweight in a 1 on 1 matchup. I'd easily favor Lewis, the Klitchko's, Bowe, Fury over him because of size, but I'm talking sheer skill. Did Holyfield have the least amount of weaknesses of any heavyweight in history?

                Also Cris Byrd was very skilled too, he just punched like a super middleweight
                - - Grunt level Alchemy ain't science and U ain't qualified to know what skill is if U think Field was skilled.

                Mike Spinks is skilled as his 39-1 record attests. He pitched a straight shut out over game champ Qawi using a stellar jab, footwork, and right hand.

                Field went life and death with a tubby version of Qawi who put him in ICU as near death as it gets for a disputed split decision.

                It's like U was born yesterday for the umpteenth day today.

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                  #28
                  Holy is a top 5 HW of all time

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                  • Science
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                    - - Grunt level Alchemy ain't science and U ain't qualified to know what skill is if U think Field was skilled.

                    Mike Spinks is skilled as his 39-1 record attests. He pitched a straight shut out over game champ Qawi using a stellar jab, footwork, and right hand.

                    Field went life and death with a tubby version of Qawi who put him in ICU as near death as it gets for a disputed split decision.

                    It's like U was born yesterday for the umpteenth day today.
                    Gonna be honest QueensburgRules, I threw up a little bit in my mouth when you tried to compare Mike ****ing Spinks to Holyfield.

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