Comments Thread For: Whyte: Okay I've Had a Loss - But It's Not The End of The World For Me

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thanks mate ...appreciated.
I had it last august and was ok then so should be fine.

shame fury is retiring as I think he should go for undisputed champ but it’s up to him.

He cracked me up when he spoke to ngannou and asked him if he has a big corey lol.......pmsl with that mate

I'm pretty sure that he'll end up fighting the winner, he's just done a Mayweather, remember when he 'retired' after the Oscar fight?

[joe strong]

He’s quite clearly awful, could not have had any success in many other HW eras, and obviously bottled it against Fury.

But what I’ve generally liked about Whyte is he doesn’t hide and he will fight tough customers. Really, he doesn’t get enough respect round here for that, considering how many renowned boxers aren’t ready to mix it.

I have always given Whyte his due as a solid top 5-10 HW. For a few years I had him at #4 & Povetkin at #5 until they fought. Then Povetkin retired & Usyk beat Joshua so he is still #5 until someone lower on my pecking order beats him. Joyce & Parker are my 6 & 7 then it is mix/match after that… Still big fights out there for him.

[deathofaclown]

If he is going to continue in the heavyweight division I would seriously advise him to get a trainer who can teach him to cup or cross his arms to protect from the uppercut. Plenty of Holyfield, Frazier, and Norton videos for teaching guides.

Problem is it’s really hard to teach people at 35. The guy has been pro 11 or 12 years, before that he was a K1 European kickboxing champion etc, I think there’s a lot of muscle memory there that makes it really hard to fix big flaws

I mean I doubt he and his team are that ****** to not notice a pattern of not try to fix it, but actually doing it this stage is another thing.

Whyte is what he is at this point, a dangerous guy if you give him chances and don’t box smartly, but has his own big flaws too.

slightly off topic, But this is why I’ve been ****ing the drum about Boots Ennis needing to fix that horrible flaw he has of pulling out with his chin really exposed and getting caught flush nearly every fight. As you progress and age it’s really hard to fix these flaws and the muscle memory and good fighters will expose it badly.

[deathofaclown]

Dillian Whyte will never be a world champion.

Highly unlikely

I guess it would depend if the belts got fragmented next year or something and he got a very easy vacant shot. The problem is he’s not that well positioned in any other governing bodies at the moment, so that’s unlikely and he hasn’t got a promoter to buy him an easy title shot like AJ got against Charles Martin. Hell, AJ got to hold 3 belts without beating a decent champ. Just shows you what money can do if your promoter invents.

One thing I’ll give Dillian credit for is if it comes back, I don’t think he will be gun shy or anything. He’s not like AJ. Even when he got flattened against Povetkin, he stuck it on him in the rematch without fear. So I think he can still be in some decent fights if it’s the right style for him.

[Corelone]

Whyte was always Eddy's number two.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Highly unlikely

I guess it would depend if the belts got fragmented next year or something and he got a very easy vacant shot. The problem is he’s not that well positioned in any other governing bodies at the moment, so that’s unlikely and he hasn’t got a promoter to buy him an easy title shot like AJ got against Charles Martin. Hell, AJ got to hold 3 belts without beating a decent champ. Just shows you what money can do if your promoter invents.

One thing I’ll give Dillian credit for is if it comes back, I don’t think he will be gun shy or anything. He’s not like AJ. Even when he got flattened against Povetkin, he stuck it on him in the rematch without fear. So I think he can still be in some decent fights if it’s the right style for him.

Joshua & Povetkin are renowned big punchers. I think this loss to Fury, will be more difficult to overcome for Whyte 'But he will come through it'.

I still don't think Fury is a big puncher, I think Saturdays knock out was down to Whyte being damaged prior. He has been in wars, been decked constantly and brutally knocked out 'Before eventually getting his title fight with Fury etc'.

It was down to being damaged and well just not having the levels.

Note: Wasn't Whyte very accepting of this loss? I don't think he truly saw himself beating Fury. I highlighted his behavior prior to the fight, being all matey matey as a sign. I think Whyte was spooked by the occasion, that was his first time at the big dance.

Yes Whyte gave it a go, and he deserves credit for that. He is a game fighter. But he really should of just involved himself in the build up, engage with Fury more. If he did that, I don't think he would of got knocked out. It was a foolish mistake, very low level mistake which lead to the knock-out. Whyte suddenly just decided to stalk Fury, by getting square on and walking through invisible front doors.

Joshua, Wilder, Usyk would of also punished him for that badly. Joshua and Wilder would of sparked him out, but I am unsure whether Usyk has the power to do the same etc.

[deathofaclown]

Note: Wasn't Whyte very accepting of this loss? I don't think he truly saw himself beating Fury. I highlighted his behavior prior to the fight, being all matey matey as a sign. I think Whyte was spooked by the occasion, that was his first time at the big dance.

I agree with that part. Fury is also very good and controlling the environment. I think Fury played the role of the big star well and Whyte felt he was no longer facing Tyson that he used to eat and train with, he was facing the world heavyweight champ that sold out the national stadium. I think that part of the occasion got to him.

Even in the build up, where was the “maximum violence” Whyte always promises before fights? He was saying “Win, lose or draw, we’re going to have a good fight” - he never talks like that. even Dean Whyte is usually confident said before the fight “we know it’s an uphill battle”.

Dillian Whyte is a Knowledgeable man when it comes to combat sports, he’s been doing them since he was kid. He was the k1 European kickboxing champ when he was about 19 or 20. I think deep down he knew that stylistically this is a horrible fight for him, and I think he’s too knowledgeable to delude himself into thinking it wasn’t. Once you know that as a fighter, the self doubt creeps in easily.

i think by the time they got in the ring, he had resigned himself to the fact he’s in with a superior fighter with a bad style for him and he was just gonna try to get through the fight and see how it goes. Hardly an ideal mindset when fighting Tyson Fury.

Still, even if he handled the occasion well, they’re levels apart so would it matter?

[P to the J]

I have always given Whyte his due as a solid top 5-10 HW. For a few years I had him at #4 & Povetkin at #5 until they fought. Then Povetkin retired & Usyk beat Joshua so he is still #5 until someone lower on my pecking order beats him. Joyce & Parker are my 6 & 7 then it is mix/match after that… Still big fights out there for him.

Yeah fair play to you. IMO, he's weaker than Joyce, but obviously no-one knows until these guys get in the ring with each other.

Undoubtedly, total gulf between him and the top of the HW division.

[P to the J]

It is not the end, and once again? Whyte is reacting impressively to a brutal loss.

He may have found his level, but if his dedication is still the same he will 'Go on to be in big fights, win some and lose some etc'.

Whyte is too heavy these days, and it is not down to lack of dedication. His body cannot cope with being over 250 + pounds.

I think he needs to be in the 240-245 pounds.

Word. A lot of these HWs aren't natural boxers, and should be looking to be as athletic and conditioned as possible to compensate. Otherwise, what are they? Overweight, sitting ducks that gas early is what

[P to the J]

Thats just a lie,he is a certified no hoper who ducked multiple fighters & only fought Fury because he wanted to cash out,& to top it off the supposed good opponents he faced were all old af &/or on their way out.

Its not an accomplishment for a no hoper hw to fight who Whyte faced,he even ducked Wallin at last minute from fear of losing his cashout v Fury.(I'm convinced more than ever Wallin would've kod him)

This might well have been a cash out for him, but come on now...

yeah, his record is almost certainly full of over the hill fighters, but (a) if he's a 'no hoper' then surely over the hill fighters are still a threat to him, no?

(b) 'old af/ on their way out' fighters are almost all there is in ranked positions at HW!

And (c) was Parker 'old af'?