New HW rankings

[Inspired]

Parker needs to ensure that he gets lots of sparring with the Gypsy King.

For me its a 50/50 fight.

I can't see him doing anything to joyce, he's happy to lose. Losing by UD will set him up for Dubois. Then he can go on to fight guys like Hrgovic and maybe frazer clarke, adeleye and maybe a whyte rematch or even hughie fury.
all in all he'll earn decent money from all them fights. he is happy with that.

[Marchegiano]

Ahem, neigh-eth good sir. Mister Tyson Fury is retired.

1. Wilder
2. Usyk
3. Joshua
4. Ruiz
5. Joyce

As far as Boxrec/TBRB/Ring ****** points system give Joshua a slot over Wilder for fighting Pulev. Which is why no one not bound by a computer program gives a **** except the usual Joshua nuthuggers and Wilder haters. No one gives a **** about that win, to the point they will not even present it directly as a reason to rate Joshua above Wilder, but hide it behind a banner folks respect and bingo jingo you got a reason to rate Joshua 100% based on the Pulev fight.

in 2020 Wilder had 660 points

in 2020 Joshua had 554 points

Usyk had 318

Usyk beats Chisora, a fight no one gives a **** about or brags on Usyk for

Joshua beats Pulev, a fight not mentioned in a positive light since its announcement.

Wilder loses to Fury in a fight Fury brings up every time he speaks, other fans can't stop talking about, and has been the measuring tool for how good Whyte is even though Wilder and Whyte never fought.

It's not hard to see, Earl Hickey is a troll and none of you actually respect what Joshua did to get rated in their ****** points games over Wilder while plenty of you do respect how close Wilder came to beating Fury.

At the end of the day, Joshua was meant to win, he's losing fights he's favored in. Not just bookie favored, favored here too. Wilder did much better than predicted to the point where the Fury fans had to walk back how hard they go in on Deontay. He went from being an absolute bum with no hope and no chance to the man who pushed Tyson Fury into his best performances to date.

[Chaos]

Before Fury he was an unbeaten 5yr WBC champion, destroyed all challengers. Joshua got KO'd by a fat man and schooled by a CW, how can you rank him ahead of Wilder?

Joshua beat Wlad, Povetkin and Whyte, who did the twerker beat, other than a geriatric Cuban on heart medication?

And during those five years he fought guys barely in the top 30 instead of unifying. He was a protected bum and got whooped all three times he stepped up.

[famicommander]

Joyce is way, way too high. He's a big stiff robot picking the bones of shot fighters (Stiverne, Ustinov, Jennings, Takam) and he's way too overrated off Dubois being too simple to avoid the world's slowest jab.

[11player]

Its close but I still rank Usyk ahead of Fury. Theres a clear reason Fury ducked that fight and it wasnt any step aside payment.

Usyk
Fury
Joshua
Wilder
White
Parker
Ruiz
Joyce

[hugh grant]

Joyce is way, way too high. He's a big stiff robot picking the bones of shot fighters (Stiverne, Ustinov, Jennings, Takam) and he's way too overrated off Dubois being too simple to avoid the world's slowest jab.

You could be right. Actually ruiz and parker i forgot about them. But Wilder should be no4 as in 3 attempts to beat fury he failed. If Usyk or josh fought Fury 3 times, they have at least a win over fury in my opinion.

[QueensburyRules]

Joyce is way, way too high. He's a big stiff robot picking the bones of shot fighters (Stiverne, Ustinov, Jennings, Takam) and he's way too overrated off Dubois being too simple to avoid the world's slowest jab.

- - How slow U boxing IQ?

Uno digit?

[famicommander]

You could be right. Actually ruiz and parker i forgot about them. But Wilder should be no4 as in 3 attempts to beat fury he failed. If Usyk or josh fought Fury 3 times, they have at least a win over fury in my opinion.

Joshua is a heartless, chinless, finished fighter. He doesn't last 3 rounds with Wilder and he never even lays a glove on Fury.

C. Fury
1. Usyk
2. Wilder
3. Joshua
4. Ruiz
5. old man Ortiz

But there's a huge dropoff after Wilder.

[jethro66]

Wilder over AJ ..

[daggum]

Ahem, neigh-eth good sir. Mister Tyson Fury is retired.

1. Wilder
2. Usyk
3. Joshua
4. Ruiz
5. Joyce

As far as Boxrec/TBRB/Ring ****** points system give Joshua a slot over Wilder for fighting Pulev. Which is why no one not bound by a computer program gives a **** except the usual Joshua nuthuggers and Wilder haters. No one gives a **** about that win, to the point they will not even present it directly as a reason to rate Joshua above Wilder, but hide it behind a banner folks respect and bingo jingo you got a reason to rate Joshua 100% based on the Pulev fight.

in 2020 Wilder had 660 points

in 2020 Joshua had 554 points

Usyk had 318

Usyk beats Chisora, a fight no one gives a **** about or brags on Usyk for

Joshua beats Pulev, a fight not mentioned in a positive light since its announcement.

Wilder loses to Fury in a fight Fury brings up every time he speaks, other fans can't stop talking about, and has been the measuring tool for how good Whyte is even though Wilder and Whyte never fought.

It's not hard to see, Earl Hickey is a troll and none of you actually respect what Joshua did to get rated in their ****** points games over Wilder while plenty of you do respect how close Wilder came to beating Fury.

At the end of the day, Joshua was meant to win, he's losing fights he's favored in. Not just bookie favored, favored here too. Wilder did much better than predicted to the point where the Fury fans had to walk back how hard they go in on Deontay. He went from being an absolute bum with no hope and no chance to the man who pushed Tyson Fury into his best performances to date.

yeah the points are ****** so lets look at resumes and joshua's resume is much better than wilders. why would wilder be ahead simply for losing to fury 3 times? and 2 of those were in dominant fashion. in fact the only somewhat close fight was when fury was fat, rusty, and wilder cherry picked him off of undercards(wilders words) when fury actually got his rhythm back he beat wilder easily. we have to judge them based on what they have actually accomplished and for wilder thats very little. pulev would be wilders 2nd best win of his career so that should tell you a lot about his level of competition. thats probably joshuas 6th best win on his resume in comparison.

also wilder was favored in the first 2 fury fights and he lost them so im not sure what this meant to win thing means. either you beat good fighters or you dont. joshua has beaten far more. they have both lost but losing to a better fighter doesnt make up for the lack of a quality resume and shouldnt vault you ahead.

Bovada has Wilder at -170, while most other books have him around -150 or so.

Online sportsbook Bovada has Wilder as the slight -125 favorite for this rematch with Fury coming back at +105