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  • Toffee
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    #11
    Originally posted by denium

    Before Fury he was an unbeaten 5yr WBC champion, destroyed all challengers. Joshua got KO'd by a fat man and schooled by a CW, how can you rank him ahead of Wilder?
    Do I need to reel off who he's beaten?

    Unbeaten means little when the level of competition is so low.

    Where do you rank Joshua if he beats Usyk?

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    • REDEEMER
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      #12
      So Fury defeating Whyte puts Usyk at number 2 now and demotes Wilder all of a sudden ?

      Wilders last wins was Breazeale and Ortiz in 2019 but he’s number 3 over A.J who lost to the fighter at number 2 ?
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 04-26-2022, 07:44 AM.

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #13
        Originally posted by denium
        1) Usyk
        2) AJ
        3) Blubber
        4) Fat Andy
        5) Parker

        Thoughts?
        - - Corrected...you're welcome.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Toffee

          Do I need to reel off who he's beaten?

          Unbeaten means little when the level of competition is so low.

          Where do you rank Joshua if he beats Usyk?
          He’ll put him in the 3 spot and say he never beat Wilder .

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            #15
            Originally posted by Toffee

            Do I need to reel off who he's beaten?

            Unbeaten means little when the level of competition is so low.

            Where do you rank Joshua if he beats Usyk?
            Second or third depending on the circumstances.

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            • Nash out
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              #16
              Originally posted by denium
              1) Fury
              2) Usyk
              3) Wilder
              4) Joshua
              5) Joyce

              Thoughts?
              I agree. That being said, Nash has no idea who wins out of Usyk vs Wilder, or Joshua vs Joyce. I'm not convinced Usyk can take Wilder's power, love to see it though. And Joshua vs Joyce, Joyce is more durable and I can certainly see why people would pick Joyce to win, but at the same time, Joshua is a lot faster than Joyce, so could maybe bust Joyce up still, similar to how Pulev was too slow to do anything against Joshua. Nash would also love to see Hrgovic vs Ruiz/Ortiz winner (assuming they are fighting) Need to see what Hrgovic has at a higher level, cause he hasn't needed to show all of his cards yet, maybe he has more in the tank than people think. Nash out.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Nash out

                I agree. That being said, Nash has no idea who wins out of Usyk vs Wilder, or Joshua vs Joyce. I'm not convinced Usyk can take Wilder's power, love to see it though. And Joshua vs Joyce, Joyce is more durable and I can certainly see why people would pick Joyce to win, but at the same time, Joshua is a lot faster than Joyce, so could maybe bust Joyce up still, similar to how Pulev was too slow to do anything against Joshua. Nash would also love to see Hrgovic vs Ruiz/Ortiz winner (assuming they are fighting) Need to see what Hrgovic has at a higher level, cause he hasn't needed to show all of his cards yet, maybe he has more in the tank than people think. Nash out.
                Wilder needs to fight again this year, if not, he drops out of my rankings.

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                • Earl-Hickey
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                  #18
                  Ring, Tprb and boxrec all have AJ 3rd behind fury and Usyk.

                  I agree strongly.

                  AJ last 3 fights

                  Ruiz 2 (w ud)
                  Pulev (w ko)
                  Usyk (l ud)


                  Wilder last 3 fights

                  Ortiz (w ko)
                  Fury (l ko)
                  Fury(l ko)



                  Wilder doesn't get bonus points for getting knocked out by Fury, statistically his recent form is terrible, he hasn't won in almost 3 years and so #3 is more than fair

                  Argue about the quality of Pulev and Ruiz Jr but fact is they were universally ranked fighters and Joshua has recent wins over them
                  Last edited by Earl-Hickey; 04-26-2022, 08:04 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                    Ring, Tprb and boxrec all have AJ 3rd behind fury and Usyk.

                    I agree strongly.

                    AJ last 3 fights

                    Ruiz 2 (w ud)
                    Pulev (w ko)
                    Usyk (l ud)


                    Wilder last 3 fights

                    Ortiz (w ko)
                    Fury (l ko)
                    Fury(l ko)



                    Wilder doesn't get bonus points for getting knocked out by Fury, his recent form is terrible, he hasn't won in almost 3 years and so #3 is more than fair

                    Argue about the quality of Pulev and Ruiz Jr but fact is they were universally ranked fighters and Joshua has recent wins over them
                    Fair points Earl, and like i say, Wilder will soon be unranked in my book, he needs to fight and soon.

                    If Wilder isn't there;

                    1) Fury
                    2) Usyk
                    3) AJ)
                    4) Joyce
                    5) Parker

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by denium

                      Wilder needs to fight again this year, if not, he drops out of my rankings.
                      Same for me too, but I think we'll see him back out 2x this year. Nash out.

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