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  • #41
    Tyson Fury fought Whyte who could hardly move.

    I am still adamant, that it is not clear how Fury will do against the other top heavyweights.

    Lets be real about this, Whyte is not a elite heavyweight. He is world class, but not elite.

    Even this version of Joshua would most likely beat Whyte more cleanly this time around, and also knock him out.

    Anthony Joshua's next fight is against another super elite heavyweight fighter. Joshua vs Uysk is on a entirely different level.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by kafkod View Post

      Yes, Haymon made the right move for Haymon, and part of his reasoning must have been the belief that Wilder couldn't beat AJ. Otherwise, why not allow him to fight 2 or 3 times on DAZN then come back to PBC as the unified HW champ and the biggest star in boxing. And yes, I do realise that AJ got KTFO by an overweight Mexican and schooled by a blown up Ukrainian middleweight, blah blah blah. But, as with the covid pandemic, nobody knew any of that was going to happen back then.
      He made the right move for Wilder. Surely had nothing to do with a belief he couldn’t beat AJ. However this is NSB so it will be framed in as negative a way possible.

      I’ve explained this to you multiple times but you can’t accept the fact that Haymon wasn’t going to help a competitor grow their business in any way.
      Every poster would make the same decision.

      Covid exposed the cash weakness of many companies. DAZN was just one of them. So I’m not suggesting Haymon predicted covid. I am betting he and his people- who have significant finance experience and have negotiated business deals for some of the highest paid entertainers (Jay, Drake, Beyoncé, Floyd among others)- might know a bit more about the financial position of a start up like DAZN and if they were meeting financial expectations.

      To accept that would give Haymon credit for which you are loathe to do. I get that.

      One final point- it’s a bit nauseating to see you and others constantly talk about how Haymon has done wrong by his clients when they never complain and speak positively about the business arrangement.

      Now I know a lot of you can’t admit when you’re wrong- but maybe at some point you’ll set aside whatever bias or preconceived opinion you have and accept that these boxers are happy with how he’s managed their careers.



      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-25-2022, 06:14 PM.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        He made the right move for Wilder. Surely had nothing to do with a belief he couldn’t beat AJ. However this is NSB so it will be framed in as negative a way possible.

        I’ve explained this to you multiple times but you can’t accept the fact that Haymon wasn’t going to help a competitor grow their business in any way.
        Every poster would make the same decision.

        Covid exposed the cash weakness of many companies. DAZN was just one of them. So I’m not suggesting Haymon predicted covid. I am betting he and his people- who have significant finance experience and have negotiated business deals for some of the highest paid entertainers (Jay, Drake, Beyoncé, Floyd among others)- might know a bit more about the financial position of a start up like DAZN and if they were meeting financial expectations.

        To accept that would give Haymon credit for which you are loathe to do. I get that.

        One final point- it’s a bit nauseating to see you and others constantly talk about how Haymon has done wrong by his clients when they never complain and speak positively about the business arrangement.

        Now I know a lot of you can’t admit when you’re wrong- but maybe at some point you’ll set aside whatever bias or preconceived opinion you have and accept that these boxers are happy with how he’s managed their careers.


        Wilder was manipulated by Haymon and Finkel into turning down an offer which - in Wilder's own words - would have made him more money than he eventually got for being destroyed, humiliated and probably retired by Tyson Fury. And they did that, as you have admitted here, not for Wilder's benefit, but because Haymon wanted to get one over on a business rival.

        Great business move by Haymon, terrible advice to a naive, gullible fighter who trusted him and bad news for boxing and boxing fans. But hey ... who cares about boxing and boxing fans. Haymon got one over Eddie Hearn, and that's all that matters.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
          Tyson Fury fought Whyte who could hardly move.

          I am still adamant, that it is not clear how Fury will do against the other top heavyweights.

          Lets be real about this, Whyte is not a elite heavyweight. He is world class, but not elite.

          Even this version of Joshua would most likely beat Whyte more cleanly this time around, and also knock him out.

          Anthony Joshua's next fight is against another super elite heavyweight fighter. Joshua vs Uysk is on a entirely different level.
          If Fury had done what he said he was going to do - come in near 280lbs and go after Whyte the way he went after Wilder, it would have been a completely different fight and one that Whyte would have had a real chance of winning. Dillian made a mistake by coming in heavy himself to stop Fury bullying him, and that extra weight ended up being a handicap instead of an asset.

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          • #45
            White has been ko by Povetkin, Fury had trouble with otto wallin, there is also aj ans usyk, lets slow down on the whole Best Heavy Weight Boxer thing Eddie!
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            • #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

              He made the right move for Wilder. Surely had nothing to do with a belief he couldn’t beat AJ. However this is NSB so it will be framed in as negative a way possible.

              I’ve explained this to you multiple times but you can’t accept the fact that Haymon wasn’t going to help a competitor grow their business in any way.
              Every poster would make the same decision.

              Covid exposed the cash weakness of many companies. DAZN was just one of them. So I’m not suggesting Haymon predicted covid. I am betting he and his people- who have significant finance experience and have negotiated business deals for some of the highest paid entertainers (Jay, Drake, Beyoncé, Floyd among others)- might know a bit more about the financial position of a start up like DAZN and if they were meeting financial expectations.

              To accept that would give Haymon credit for which you are loathe to do. I get that.

              One final point- it’s a bit nauseating to see you and others constantly talk about how Haymon has done wrong by his clients when they never complain and speak positively about the business arrangement.

              Now I know a lot of you can’t admit when you’re wrong- but maybe at some point you’ll set aside whatever bias or preconceived opinion you have and accept that these boxers are happy with how he’s managed their careers.


              Didn't Haymon steal money from Beyoncé?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

                If Fury didn’t have Whyte as a win A.J still wouldn’t get credit for it . Crazy how people mocked him after Povetkin but now want to build off this recent stoppage, makes no sense .
                We know some people are full of dubble standards. If AJ revenge his loss by beating Usyk in the rematch they will find excuses not to give him the credit. It's just the way it.
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake View Post
                  White has been ko by Povetkin, Fury had trouble with otto wallin, there is also aj ans usyk, lets slow down on the whole Best Heavy Weight Boxer thing Eddie!
                  Only a fool would deny what Eddie is saying, everyone knows Fury is #1. Cope harder.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by VislorTurlough View Post
                    Eddie entire business has been one long con. And it’s now over thanks to Usyk and Fury. Immediate rematches, corrupt judges and a pay for play UKAD bought him a lot of time. And naive UK fans who still cling to 20th century nationalism kept showing up - somehow Joshua was “the pride of Great Britain.” Amazing that garbage works on the weak minded in 2022. That’s why Matchroom was a disaster in America. Eddie had no tricks up his sleeve
                    "20th century nationalism" is white people supporting a token black hypejob? Lmao.

                    This just shows how much anti-white propaganda has infected the minds of the public.

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                    • #50
                      And you have to be blind after AJ and Povetkin to think any HW, esp a top tier, wouldn't go after the uppercut vs. Whyte. And Whyte's camp is blind, given they don't watch Holyfield Norton and Frazier videos on how to cross the arms and protect from an uppercut. Hill must be the only guy in boxing who studies the greats. Then again he was trained by one of them,

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