Comments Thread For: Hearn: Fury is The Best Heavyweight on The Planet, I Didn't Think He'd KO Whyte and He Did

[takenotes]

I thought the Klitchko era had the worst HWs....I was wrong. This era is even worse. Fury's best win was against an old Wlad who had a **** trainer in Banks. Second best was Wilder, who for all intents and purposes, had a laundry list of cab drivers on his record. His best win was against Stiverne.

So they are judging Fury based off of his fight with Wlad, two nobody's and 3 fights with Wilder? I'm not saying Fury is a terrible boxer but his opposition has been complete trash, even compared to Wlad's opponents. Didn't Fury go life and death with Otto Wallin?

[The Big Dunn]

Let me get this straight ... are really saying that the rewriting of DAZN contracts caused by Covid restrictions was the reason why Wilder turned down a contract offered to him 18 months earlier, before anybody even knew the virus existed?

Did I post that? No. So stop.

The offer got turned down. Offers get turned down all the time. You nor I know exactly why it got turned down but as we’ve discussed multiple times before, part of it was not helping a competitor grow their business by giving them 2-3 huge fights on a their platform. If you refuse to understand that part, so be it.

As it turned out, Covid in part altered some of DAZN’s plans. The other problem that affected plans was the inability to grow the subscriber base in America to predicted levels.

Haymon made the right move not having one of his biggest draws go to a platform that fans were not supporting prior to Covid and that ultimately couldn’t provide the guarantees they promised once covid hit.

[Boro]

I thought the Klitchko era had the worst HWs....I was wrong. This era is even worse. Fury's best win was against an old Wlad who had a **** trainer in Banks. Second best was Wilder, who for all intents and purposes, had a laundry list of cab drivers on his record. His best win was against Stiverne.

So they are judging Fury based off of his fight with Wlad, two nobody's and 3 fights with Wilder? I'm not saying Fury is a terrible boxer but his opposition has been complete trash, even compared to Wlad's opponents. Didn't Fury go life and death with Otto Wallin?

Beating the two long reigning champions of his era, having the generation defining trilogy at heavyweight and it's laughable to say he went life and death with Wallin he lost 2-4 rounds at best and one poxxy cut isn't going to constitute "life and death" in any reality other then yours.

Whilst his resume is píss poor as pointed out what he lacks in "quantity" he makes up in "quality" AJs best win is arguably an even older Wlad or Povetkin for example and Usyk is currently the only guy in the division who could conceivably beat Fury, without it just being a hail mary.

[kafkod]

Did I post that? No. So stop.

The offer got turned down. Offers get turned down all the time. You nor I know exactly why it got turned down but as we’ve discussed multiple times before, part of it was not helping a competitor grow their business by giving them 2-3 huge fights on a their platform. If you refuse to understand that part, so be it.

As it turned out, Covid in part altered some of DAZN’s plans. The other problem that affected plans was the inability to grow the subscriber base in America to predicted levels.

Haymon made the right move not having one of his biggest draws go to a platform that fans were not supporting prior to Covid and that ultimately couldn’t provide the guarantees they promised once covid hit.

Yes, Haymon made the right move for Haymon, and part of his reasoning must have been the belief that Wilder couldn't beat AJ. Otherwise, why not allow him to fight 2 or 3 times on DAZN then come back to PBC as the unified HW champ and the biggest star in boxing. And yes, I do realise that AJ got KTFO by an overweight Mexican and schooled by a blown up Ukrainian middleweight, blah blah blah. But, as with the covid pandemic, nobody knew any of that was going to happen back then.

[joe strong]

The pecking order in my eyes is Fury, Usyk, Wilder, Joshua, Whyte, Parker & Joyce… mix & match after that… Fury has beaten Whyte & Wilder, Usyk beat Joshua, Joshua beat Whyte & Parker.

I am not one of these clowns that think Whyte is a bum. He has pretty good resume & a lot of experience. Sure he has some questionable outcomes but he is still a solid HW. Fury is just levels ahead of him like he was against Chisora. Slow brawlers stand absolutely no chance against Fury. The reason Wilder had some success (dropped him 4 times) if because he has speed. I give Joshua little chance of beating Fury. Joyce way too slow for Fury. Parker won’t fight him & it would be another friendly Rahman/Barrett waltz.

Usyk has speed & skill to give Fury some troubles but he doesn’t have the power & he would have to expose himself inside to hit Fury. Fury would grab him & lean on his. Usyk would have to be on his bike. 6’9 270lbs who can move & box. If Usyk was a bigger man He might have a chance but he won’t be able to hold Fury’s weight for 12 rounds in my opinion. Fury is not dumb & his skills would allow him to cut off the ring. The old saying a great big man will always beat s great little man. Fury/Usyk is the best fight out there but Fury/Joshua generates the most money.

What i want to see is some of these top 5-10 fighting each other. Wilder/Whyte, Joyce/Parker, Ruiz, Hunter, Hrgovic, Sanchez, Ejagba, Hughie, Helenius, etc, etc.. Nobody is getting a title shot anytime soon so make the fights & earn some money. Dempsey McKean & Junior Fa are a couple more. Secondary fights like Pulev/Arreola, Chisora/McKean,Hughie/Helenius, Maknudov/Hrgovic, Wach/Zhang, Dubois/Bryan. Jarrell Miller is back soon too…

There are good fights out there at all levels of the division. They need to be willing to fight. Not everyone is in line for a title shot. Make some money while they still can instead of sitting around.

[Oldskoolg]

Eddie entire business has been one long con. And it’s now over thanks to Usyk and Fury. Immediate rematches, corrupt judges and a pay for play UKAD bought him a lot of time. And naive UK fans who still cling to 20th century nationalism kept showing up - somehow Joshua was “the pride of Great Britain.” Amazing that garbage works on the weak minded in 2022. That’s why Matchroom was a disaster in America. Eddie had no tricks up his sleeve

Someone get this man the best seat in the pub and a hot pot to go with

[Oldskoolg]

What gets me is how Fury isn't the pride of the UK. They bad mouth him worse than most of his other detractors, maybe not as bad as 1 hour, but he gets little respect from home.

That’s because he isn’t Olafemi. Man fans idolise Olafemi because of how he looks, they want to be him….and also because fury never bowed to Eddie Hearn

[Oldskoolg]

Did I post that? No. So stop.

The offer got turned down. Offers get turned down all the time. You nor I know exactly why it got turned down but as we’ve discussed multiple times before, part of it was not helping a competitor grow their business by giving them 2-3 huge fights on a their platform. If you refuse to understand that part, so be it.

As it turned out, Covid in part altered some of DAZN’s plans. The other problem that affected plans was the inability to grow the subscriber base in America to predicted levels.

Haymon made the right move not having one of his biggest draws go to a platform that fans were not supporting prior to Covid and that ultimately couldn’t provide the guarantees they promised once covid hit.

They will never admit that Americans just never gave a damn about dayzin and the matchroom shills are still bitter about the disaster the sham that the “American takeover” turned out to be

[Liondw]

I mostly agree with Hearn.

I think Fury has incredible talent and skills for a man his size. He would be highly competitive and up there in any era. But best of all time, I can't say that.

Look at the greats of the past, and yes, the smaller heavyweights could beat the bigger men. Marciano, Louis, Dempsey, Tunney, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Holmes, Tyson, Bowe, Lewis and Holyfield, to name a few.

Could Fury beat more than one of them, yes possibly. Beat all of them, doubtful.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I sense people envy Anthony Joshua, honestly? I think this is where the hate for him comes from.

I see people ranking the current heavyweights, the title for the greatest fighter of this era has not been decided.

And it is between Fury & Joshua.

Usyk has only just come into play, and Wilder is doing nothing.

The reason why I state that it is between Fury & Joshua, is because these guys have deep or deeper resumes at heavyweight than Uysk.

And I also think Joshua will win his rematch vs Usyk.

Note: I am not a hardcore Anthony Joshua fan, it is I don't understand the hate for him. I see a similar theme with athletes from other sports over the years like Lewis Hamilton. People will just blatantly hate, and I think it is down to some sort of envy. Maybe it is attitude, conduct, optimism. I think it terrifies people that Joshua want go away, put his head down and disappear.