Lets play Triangle theory with Deontay Wilder, Dylan Whyte and The Gypsy King:

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  • REDEEMER
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    #11
    You’d have to take into account Wilder had 3 tries at Fury and the only one Fury came in clear headed and in shape was the second fight which Wilder didn’t do as good as Whyte who let’s be honest didn’t let Fury bully him as much . I’d argue Furys shot against Whyte was harder but to a fresher Whyte ? Only way to settle this one is an actual Wilder vs Whyte .

    According to the actual Fury camp and Fury himself this was the best prepared Fury ever so Wilder didn’t face this guy if we were to do fight on fight comparisons, Wilder had the advantage fighting him multiple times to get some sort of gage on him .
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 04-24-2022, 11:19 PM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by REDEEMER
      You’d have to take into account Wilder had 3 tries at Fury and the only one Fury came in clear headed and in shape was the second fight which Wilder didn’t do as good as Whyte who let’s be honest didn’t let Fury bully him as much . I’d argue Furys shot against Whyte was harder but to a fresher Whyte ? Only way to settle this one is an actual Wilder vs Whyte .

      According to the actual Fury camp and Fury himself this was the best prepared Fury ever so Wilder didn’t face this guy if we were to do fight on fight comparisons, Wilder had the advantage fighting him multiple times to get some sort of gage on him .
      Ill give you the "3 bites at the apple" lol. Its a valid point that Wilder had chances to study Fury... and no... the fact that Whyte and Fury sparred is not the same, I do agree that actually fighting 3 times does give Wilder an advantage.

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        #13
        Originally posted by billeau2

        Ill give you the "3 bites at the apple" lol. Its a valid point that Wilder had chances to study Fury... and no... the fact that Whyte and Fury sparred is not the same, I do agree that actually fighting 3 times does give Wilder an advantage.
        I’ve always said under some circumstances there should be a set of 3 fights if each wins with the winner in the tie breaker third fight . But have the fights in order where it doesn’t stagnate too long like maybe 3 months in between each fight . In the event a draw happens then only one fight takes place ,etc…just my two cents that will never happen , I mean no one’s really going to be satisfied on here if A.J defeats Usyk that’s just a give me they still complain about A.Js shut out of Ruiz, with these rules though you’d have gotten Fury vs Joshua way before the Usyk fight .
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 04-25-2022, 11:25 AM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by billeau2
          Tyson Fury says a lot of things. If you can intuit certain behavoirs Fury is not really deceptive... or, rather, one can see when he is pissing on your leg and telling you it is raining. Some time ago Tyson talked up Wilder as an opponent. He never wavered from his assesment of Wilder, including saying recently after this fight that fighting Wilder is like "holding dynamite in your hands."

          Fury has been consistent and the Whyte fight seems to bare out the fact that Wilder is dangerous. Wilder, it turns out, in his ability to hang in there, take punishment, and find a way to deliver shots, may turn out to be Fury's biggest foil for when people debate Fury's place in heavyweight history, years from now.

          Thoughts?
          - - 3 Low hanging fruit duel is it now?

          3 squishy overripe banana swords fighting each other...only in boxing, folks!

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            #15
            I always favoured Wilder over Whyte, the Fury fight didnt effect my opinion. Whyte is sluggish and hittable. It would be a pretty short, messy fight with Whyte getting highlight reel KO'd, I wouldnt be surprised if Wilder got wobbled himself in the ensuing chaos though as he is much easier to get to and less sturdy than Fury.

            I dont buy into this whole "Fury beat Whytes ass worse than Wilders so therefore Wilder is the 2nd best HW" narrative though. Wilder should come back and fight some more top 10 guys to prove it if thats the case.
            Last edited by TMLT87; 04-25-2022, 11:46 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - 3 Low hanging fruit duel is it now?

              3 squishy overripe banana swords fighting each other...only in boxing, folks!
              Always the case with triangle theory lol. But it's fun.

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                #17
                Originally posted by REDEEMER

                I’ve always said under some circumstances there should be a set of 3 fights if each wins with the winner in the tie breaker third fight . But have the fights in order where it doesn’t stagnate too long like maybe 3 months in between each fight . In the event a draw happens then only one fight takes place ,etc…just my two cents that will never happen , I mean no one’s really going to be satisfied on here if A.J defeats Usyk that’s just a give me they still complain about A.Js shut out of Ruiz, with these rules though you’d have gotten Fury vs Joshua way before the Usyk fight .
                It would definitely change boxing probably for the better. Certainly would make things a lot easier with trying to determine who truly is better when two guys are competitive

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                • MikeyG
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                  #18
                  I always thought Wilder is Fury's Ortiz, if you know what I mean.

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                    #19
                    people are trying to hype up wilder based on fury beating whyte? so by this lack of logic wallin is better than wilder right? he did do much better. wilder's resume is just not very good. his performances are not very good. he was just a hype job at least at this moment. that doesnt mean wilder ****** but was he some elite top fighter? he was basically a hw andre berto. when you look back at his resume you see stirverne who was only ranked based on beating arreola. do we all think arreola is good? and then you have ortiz who has a very slim resume himself and was mostly hype. also ortiz was clearly old and rickety when wilder fought him and still was easily beating him twice until age took its toll.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MikeyG
                      I always thought Wilder is Fury's Ortiz, if you know what I mean.
                      overhyped guy who in reality wasnt that good?

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