Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury - Filling Out the Reign

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Yesterday, Fury's eerily quiet about mob ties, today, Rold's kissing his arse.

He forgot to mention the gypsy cheat's long count.

Butthurt Wilder fan alert!!!

[1hourRun]

Sefer Seferi and Francesco Pianeta, and after the first Wilder fight a contest with Tom Schwarz, as title defenses. Since beating Klitschko

[WamBamSam23]

They’re mad a white fighter is the heavyweight goat. Ali, Lennox, Louis and all the rest are bums compared to the Gypsy King.

[Toffee]

"This corner sides with the idea that Fury has been the real champion all along . . . "

Not with a suspension for steroids. Had he not already "retired", possibly to avoid being stripped, then that's what would have happened. Either way, he wasn't champion "all along" and it's more revisionist recounting to say he was.

I've always thought that if being the lineal champion is valid through a drug ban, two retirement announcements, and 'defences' against Seferi and Pianeta then let's stop debating it. The lineal championship just isn't worth anything.

Personally I'd like to think that it is important. And that period of Fury's life invalidates any claim to the lineage.

[juggernaut666]

What a load of crap his 8th lineal defense ? Give me a break he has one title defense. This is why I hope Whyte wins you’ll have guys like this telling fans about fake title defenses . And I’m taking Whyte because I know Furys camp is almost knowing Furys going to go down at some point at least that’s there own. Ind set and I don’t think he wins when that happens.

Tom Schwartz as a title defense as if he’d be allowed to fight Tom as a defense ,the author is a clown .

[juggernaut666]

I never heard such ******ity not even from Furys own fanboys .

[1hourRun]

I never heard such ******ity not even from Furys own fanboys .

Where did they go wrong juggernaut?!

[tokon]

I've always thought that if being the lineal champion is valid through a drug ban, two retirement announcements, and 'defences' against Seferi and Pianeta then let's stop debating it. The lineal championship just isn't worth anything.

Personally I'd like to think that it is important. And that period of Fury's life invalidates any claim to the lineage.

Yes, I agree, although I'm not convinced that lineal counts for anything much anymore.

[edgarg]

Fury has to beat at least Whyte, Usyk, AJ and why not count even Ruiz too (if he get his **** together) to be the best of this era. If he retires after this fight he will go down in history as "talent wasted" with his current record

An uncharacteristically poor article from Cliff Rold.. He uses the term " best boxer in the world" in a surprisingly loose fashion. Fury is a pale imitation of Jersey Joe Walcott, who himself was a surprisingly, unexpected champion, but in a very weak era, just as this is, Except of course that he is 7-8 inches taller with an octopoidal reach.

Klitschko , in fact both Klitcschos, cleaned out the division for a decade. It is still struggling to re-establish itself, with not much success. It has to depend on a gangling, weak chinned poorly co-ordinated Joshua, a 300 lb tub of lard, and ONE good boxer-fighter who is really a crusierweight, and a basket ball size athlete with shifty feet, ,, SO ...because of this Fury gets almost a "walk-over:.

I don't say, that if he had any actually GOOD, top class opponents, that he would not prevail . He might...or he might not.

Note; To defeat Klschko; at 41 and a shadow of a shadow of his former championship self, no longer able to pull the trigger, was not a fight worthy to be placed on anyone's pedestal. That the Joshua fight went as it did, shows Joshua's lack of skills to be a real Champion, not his merits. The Klitschko of 2-3 years before.still OLD, would have KOd him within 4-5-6 rounds. And Vitaly would have chewed him up before he knew what was happening.,

[edgarg]

An article I can actually get on board with.

I don't happen to agree that Fury is the lineal champion as I don't believe Fury v Wilder was a clear consensus 1&2 and I think the far greater claim is with Usyk (Joshua v Klitschko was much more of a clear consensus 1&2 with Fury well and truly out of the sport).

That said, I can see the other two roads (always lineal, and twice lineal) that people follow.

Regardless, Fury is clearly number one now. That's much more significant than lineal.

As a champion there's no depth to his work. Being the best is one thing - holding that position against challengers is a far greater achievement. So far everyone has been shooting for Fury and he's pretty much avoided them as best he could for whatever reason.

Klitschko couldn't get his rematch. Wilder had to go to court to get his rematch. Joshua lost out as a result. Whyte was pushed about as far as he could be by Fury and the WBC.

This fight is only the second time he's had to fight a challenger he didn't specifically pick... and the first was a guy he'd already beaten up.

Getting past Whyte is a huge step in his legitimacy as a champion.

I think he'll win. I don't believe he'll win and retire, but if he does he'll leave plenty of questions about how great he could have been.

Anyone who could by KOd like a fallen log, they way a washed up Povetkin did it, is not of World championship calibre. Not to forget his opponent with a half-foot height advantage, 50 lbs, and a 7" reach surplus.

Fury at say, 6'4-5" would be very manageable, but his mammoth proportions and shifty feet, put him in a boxing division with only ONE occupant..