Who Was More Impressive in Their Last Performance: Spence or Crawford?

[KillaMane26]

I think Kenny knew what was going to eventually happen though

Yeah... Speaking of... Did anyone hear what Derrick said about them before the fight.

idk if he was serious but he said something about Kenny only stopping the fight to show Shawn who boss. Then Shawn retired without telling Kenny because of it.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Here's the facts, folks.

• Crawford got two-pieced, wobbled and DROPPED by Kavaliauskas. Spence got two-pieced, wobbled and (should have been) DROPPED by Yordenis Ugas. We rate Ugas way higher than Kavaliauskas.
• Crawford arguably dropped 5 rounds against Porter before turning it around. Spence arguably dropped four rounds against Ugas before turning it around.
• Crawford didn't stop Shawn Porter; Kenny Porter did. Spence DID stop Yordenis Ugas.
• Shawn Porter was largely unmarked and uninjured after Crawford. Ugas looked like a train wreck, or Martin Lawrence after fighting Hearns, thanks to Spence.
• Crawford beat Porter because Porter lost focus, NOT because Crawford was "better". Spence beat Ugas because Spence just kept throwing after getting wobbled.
• Spence has now looked somewhat vulnerable against Porter, Ugas, and Lartey. Crawford has looked vulnerable against every 147 pounder he's faced.

Ultimately, both guys have the same weaknesses.

The one to beat Crawford is the guy who can get him to lose his temper. We saw that against Porter - it took BoMac calming Crawford down.

The one to beat Spence is the guy who is more accurate than him and not afraid of his punches coming back. We just saw that against Ugas. We also saw that for some reason, Spence is no longer able to deal with body work, which is a BIG problem, because he always has had a solid core. If Spence ever did fight Canelo, the version we saw last night gets dominated by the P4P King.

[TX_BOXNG]

I think Porter was ready to retire before Crawford fight he had some injuries was a foot out the game and his pops knew that and it turned out to be a mess fight night, never been a huge fan of Porter as far as his boxing style

Spence dominated Ugas with relentless punching and pressure, the Ugas just came from schooling Pacquiao a big win, it took Spence a bit to sync in early but he eventually did and looked similar to the relentless Spence we all know

Spence performance was more impressive, Crawfords was more finessed

[KTFOKING]

Here's the facts, folks.

• Crawford got two-pieced, wobbled and DROPPED by Kavaliauskas. Spence got two-pieced, wobbled and (should have been) DROPPED by Yordenis Ugas. We rate Ugas way higher than Kavaliauskas.
• Crawford arguably dropped 5 rounds against Porter before turning it around. Spence arguably dropped four rounds against Ugas before turning it around.
• Crawford didn't stop Shawn Porter; Kenny Porter did. Spence DID stop Yordenis Ugas.
• Shawn Porter was largely unmarked and uninjured after Crawford. Ugas looked like a train wreck, or Martin Lawrence after fighting Hearns, thanks to Spence.
• Crawford beat Porter because Porter lost focus, NOT because Crawford was "better". Spence beat Ugas because Spence just kept throwing after getting wobbled.
• Spence has now looked somewhat vulnerable against Porter, Ugas, and Lartey. Crawford has looked vulnerable against every 147 pounder he's faced.

Ultimately, both guys have the same weaknesses.

The one to beat Crawford is the guy who can get him to lose his temper. We saw that against Porter - it took BoMac calming Crawford down.

The one to beat Spence is the guy who is more accurate than him and not afraid of his punches coming back. We just saw that against Ugas. We also saw that for some reason, Spence is no longer able to deal with body work, which is a BIG problem, because he always has had a solid core. If Spence ever did fight Canelo, the version we saw last night gets dominated by the P4P King.

No way in hell Ugas won four rounds last night lol.

I also don't think Spence was that hurt from those shots, just got caught with his hands down flush on the jaw and obviously he was not expecting that.

I don't think Crawford lost five rounds vs Porter either.

So who are you picking??

[Silence]

Here's the facts, folks.

• Crawford got two-pieced, wobbled and DROPPED by Kavaliauskas. Spence got two-pieced, wobbled and (should have been) DROPPED by Yordenis Ugas. We rate Ugas way higher than Kavaliauskas.
• Crawford arguably dropped 5 rounds against Porter before turning it around. Spence arguably dropped four rounds against Ugas before turning it around.
• Crawford didn't stop Shawn Porter; Kenny Porter did. Spence DID stop Yordenis Ugas.
• Shawn Porter was largely unmarked and uninjured after Crawford. Ugas looked like a train wreck, or Martin Lawrence after fighting Hearns, thanks to Spence.
• Crawford beat Porter because Porter lost focus, NOT because Crawford was "better". Spence beat Ugas because Spence just kept throwing after getting wobbled.
• Spence has now looked somewhat vulnerable against Porter, Ugas, and Lartey. Crawford has looked vulnerable against every 147 pounder he's faced.

Ultimately, both guys have the same weaknesses.

The one to beat Crawford is the guy who can get him to lose his temper. We saw that against Porter - it took BoMac calming Crawford down.

The one to beat Spence is the guy who is more accurate than him and not afraid of his punches coming back. We just saw that against Ugas. We also saw that for some reason, Spence is no longer able to deal with body work, which is a BIG problem, because he always has had a solid core. If Spence ever did fight Canelo, the version we saw last night gets dominated by the P4P King.

Some facts about two overrated bums. But 4 rounds just too much for Ugas despite I rooted for him.

[Combat Talk Radio]

No way in hell Ugas won four rounds last night lol.

I also don't think Spence was that hurt from those shots, just got caught with his hands down flush on the jaw and obviously he was not expecting that.

I don't think Crawford lost five rounds vs Porter either.

So who are you picking??

Ugas arguably - arguably - won Rounds 1, 3 and 6. You could easily make a case for Rounds 2 and/or 5. Spence was getting countered straight to hell and looked a shell of himself until Round 7, then later when Ugas started beating the body, it made Spence reset like we've never seen. You need to watch it back, bro.

Crawford DEFINITELY lost Rounds 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6. Go back and watch it.


It's now a 50/50. Both guys have been wobbled and their opponents cheated out of a KD. Both guys have stopped guys for the first time. Both guys look shells of themselves now.

Before fighting Ugas we would have had Spence easily decisioning Terence Crawford. The version that fought Danny Swift would have embarrassed Crawford.

But now?

It's a tossup.

[F l i c k e r]

Both fights were impressive.

But I'll give Crawford the edge and not for what most people are saying.

I give Crawford the edge for those 3 body shots that made Porter sh/it himself mid fight.

He hit Porter's body so hard that Porter instantly shut down afterwards.

Set him up to get knockdown multiple times and leave Porter's dad panicking and having no idea what to do or say to get his fighter/son back into the fight.

That's why I give it to Crawford. But both were impressive. Ugas' eye was on Gatti (rip) mode.

[Silence]

He definitely did not have spaghetti legs lol. He took two shots with his hands down flush on the jaw and then quickly regained his composure. Actually showed he has a very good chin that he could take those free shots and recover that fast and not get dropped.

His chin is mediocre at best. Ugas is poor puncher who has 40% KO ratio. His punches weren't super duper punches. He landed a mediocre punch on Spence and Spence got buzzed. Then, landed another -harder- punch and threw Spence into ropes. Spence got knocked down -because he used ropes as backing-. And, he recovered because Ugas let it.

Neither Spence nor Crawford have great chins. They ain't A Mere Con though.

[F l i c k e r]

Ugas arguably - arguably - won Rounds 1, 3 and 6. You could easily make a case for Rounds 2 and/or 5. Spence was getting countered straight to hell and looked a shell of himself until Round 7, then later when Ugas started beating the body, it made Spence reset like we've never seen. You need to watch it back, bro.

Crawford DEFINITELY lost Rounds 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6. Go back and watch it.


It's now a 50/50. Both guys have been wobbled and their opponents cheated out of a KD. Both guys have stopped guys for the first time. Both guys look shells of themselves now.

Before fighting Ugas we would have had Spence easily decisioning Terence Crawford. The version that fought Danny Swift would have embarrassed Crawford.

But now?

It's a tossup.

Spence was a little different.

He ate a 2 piece with no mouthguard while looking away like Victor Ortiz vs Mayweather.

But never fell down, just into the ropes and battled until the break.

I still have Spence beating Crawford. I don't see Crawford fighting to see out 12 rounds like both Garcia's, nor fighting in a Joshua Clottey high guard like Ugas... while fighting to see out 12 rounds.

Crawford won't be hiding or avoiding so it's more open. We'll see a much more offensive fight between those two.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Spence was a little different.

He ate a 2 piece with no mouthguard while looking away like Victor Ortiz vs Mayweather.

But never fell down, just into the ropes and battled until the break.

Held up by the ropes = counted as a knockdown. Been that way forever. This was no different - and again, we're fans of both Spence and Ugas, but that was BS. It should have called a KD. Even if it wouldn't have mattered, it's the principle. Follow the damn rules.