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  • #11
    tank is still young. another 10 years of bum fights and lets reassess

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    • #12
      Tank has a lot of potential but isnt living up to it. He is probably the best at 130-140 but he needs to fight the other guys there.

      If he will actually make fights as a free agent then go for it.

      Right now hard to say if Floyd is blocking the fights or if Tank is ok with taking them like crawford was with arum all those years complacent with fighting bums.

      If tank makes the move to be a free agent then that is a big step. Crawford cried nobody will fight him while simultaneously kept renewing with Arum KNOWING he would be protected from haymond fighters.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Get em up View Post
        I agree with the promotional free agency for Tank. He has the ability to put butts in seats so why not go wherever the grass is greener. Floyd has stopped trying for Tank and I'm just assuming it's from fear of somebody stealing his thunder. That being said Floyd has done a good job making Tank a star in boxing.
        I would agree, except is the grass really greener?

        Meaning, do you think TR or GBP will make them their feature LW?

        Tank should leave Floyd if Floyd isn’t doing right by him.

        Just don’t end up being Cotto where your promoter chooses the other guy over you and puts you in fights with dudes with bricks in his gloves and make you defend your title at a CW while paying the opponent more, or Nicholas Walters where your kept out for almost a year and then forced to fight at a higher weight that benefits the guy you tried to fight at FW.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-14-2022, 10:38 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
          Will probably stay with Floyd and keep fighting the endless B-level “in-house” Hispanic fighters in ppv mismatch after mismatch. Will never risk that 0 under Floyd/Pbc..and will never dare to be great or be considered p4p.
          Why are you so critical of Linares, Santa Cruz, Cruz and Barrios? These are all very good professionals with good skills. Linares and LSC were legit world champs.

          Tank is just better than them, which is ok. It seems as if you are judging them solely on who Tank works for.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-14-2022, 10:40 AM.

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          • #15
            Tank, Crawford, call Probellum!

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            • #16
              Most young fighters get one decent win then fight nothing but bums and stay busy fights to cash out.
              Tank skipped that step and went straight to the easy fights. We still haven’t had official word on how much his last fight bombed.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                Why are you so critical of Linares, Santa Cruz, Cruz and Barrios? These are all very good professionals with good skills. Linares and LSC were legit world champs.

                Tank is just better than them, which is ok. It seems as if you are judging them solely on who Tank works for.
                Linares lost to Lomachenko then moved up in weight and got obliterated in one round by Cano before moving back down, losing to Haney, then losing to a nobody in his next fight. The last time Linares actually won a fight against a quality opponent was against Gesta in 2018. He was great in his day but he's been a shot fighter since Lomachenko got off the canvas and stopped him.

                Santa Cruz had one fight against an unranked opponent at 130 for a vacant belt. He never had any business moving above 126 and only did it so that he could be sacrificed to Tank Davis. Beating Santa Cruz at 126 would be an incredible feat; beating him at 130 in a fight that also included a 135 belt in case Tank's fat ass missed weight? Yawn.

                Barrios was barely top 10 and has zero wins in his career against ranked opposition.

                The problem with Davis is he's only fought 3 opponents in his entire career that were ranked in the division he fought them in at the time of the fight:
                #7 Pedraza
                #9 Barrios
                #6 Cruz

                That's it. The rest of the names on his resume were shamefully washed up cherry picks. Cruz, Ruiz, Santa Cruz, and Gamboa? All of them were washed up besides LSC and all were well above the weight class where they won their titles when Davis fought them.

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                • #18
                  I agree with Roy. It doesn't make sense to have a promoter taking your money if you don't need one. These days promoters don't really promote fights anyway , they just make deals for broadcast rights and site fees. Maybe put together a few interviews and press conferences. Not exactly difficult stuff. A good lawyer and a couple of people who can work phones can do all of that stuff for a lot less than a promoters cut.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                    Why are you so critical of Linares, Santa Cruz, Cruz and Barrios? These are all very good professionals with good skills. Linares and LSC were legit world champs.

                    Tank is just better than them, which is ok. It seems as if you are judging them solely on who Tank works for.
                    Slow of fists and foot Pillow-fists Lsc is way past his prime, Cruz and Barrios are b-level “in house” fighters who casuals never heard of and neither had any notable wins to justify a high ranking or title shot. Davis was a heavy favorite against all 3…NOBODY picked any of the 3 to win. Davis did not fight Linares…too heavy- handed for Davis to risk that 0. Is Davis EVER going to fight a legit threat…top fighter. He is no longer in the early stages of his career…at least have one 50/50 fight or even 60/40 fight where the outcome is not a foregone conclusion. Davis has all the skills to go along with that power..just wont dare to be great. ANYONE picking b-level Romero? …que the crickets

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                      Linares lost to Lomachenko then moved up in weight and got obliterated in one round by Cano before moving back down, losing to Haney, then losing to a nobody in his next fight. The last time Linares actually won a fight against a quality opponent was against Gesta in 2018. He was great in his day but he's been a shot fighter since Lomachenko got off the canvas and stopped him.

                      Santa Cruz had one fight against an unranked opponent at 130 for a vacant belt. He never had any business moving above 126 and only did it so that he could be sacrificed to Tank Davis. Beating Santa Cruz at 126 would be an incredible feat; beating him at 130 in a fight that also included a 135 belt in case Tank's fat ass missed weight? Yawn.

                      Barrios was barely top 10 and has zero wins in his career against ranked opposition.

                      The problem with Davis is he's only fought 3 opponents in his entire career that were ranked in the division he fought them in at the time of the fight:
                      #7 Pedraza
                      #9 Barrios
                      #6 Cruz

                      That's it. The rest of the names on his resume were shamefully washed up cherry picks. Cruz, Ruiz, Santa Cruz, and Gamboa? All of them were washed up besides LSC and all were well above the weight class where they won their titles when Davis fought them.
                      I meant to say Pedraza, who was undefeated when Tank defeated him. My fault. I agree with that you posted. Think the same about Gamboa, which is why I didn’t mention him.

                      Tank also came down to 130 for that fight. Agree that LSC isn’t a HOF 130lber, but to suggest he is “b level” is not accurate imo.

                      Barrios was a top 10 opponent in Tank’s 1st fight at 140. Despite all the negative online chatter Barrios fought a great fight and forced Tank to dig deep to win.

                      Cruz was ranked #2 ibf behind kambosis. He showed in the fight he earned that ranking. Tank earned that win as well.

                      Liam Walsh was in no way a shameful washed up cherry pick when Tank fought him. Neither was Fonseca. Come on.

                      Thats my problem- it really looks like Tank’s opposition are forced into a narrative because posters don’t like Haymon and Floyd.

                      These same guys fought another LW and they wouldn’t be labeled this way.
                      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-14-2022, 11:35 AM.

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