Who is greater MW, Golovkin or Hopkins?

[BodyBagz]

What kind of 'man' would engage in this type of convo on a boxing site? Very childish. If you want to be immature go ahead, but as far as talking boxing goes, it is a lost cause. Have a good one.

Why won't you tell me about ''pale'' being a racist comment

[QueensburyRules]

Who was ducked more? GGG. Why? He’s the better of the two. Case closed.

- - Case reopened. Who ducked more and was sent squallin' to the canvas like a kicked cur?

Popkins is the name, no whiteboy is the game...wahhhhhhhh

[elfag]

Younger Bhop has a decent chance with GGG and I would like to see that fight. Younger Bhop was more active threw more.

Bhop in his late 30s and older was a spoiler, didnt throw much, held a lot. I think he is broken down by GGG, he will eat too many shots doing that and GGG has an iron jaw so the one or two counters he lands on GGG isnt going to do much.

[El Más Loco]

Beat Canelo twice though, gotta give him that

He beat Canelo once from my point of view.....and it was a competitive lack luster fight (the 1st fight) which i have GGG winning 8-4. One could even argue 7-5 or 6-6, neither of them really showed any separation. The only reason that fight is viewed at with anger from the fans is because of ONE ridiculous score card from ONE judge.

[dukesville]

He beat Canelo once from my point of view.....and it was a competitive lack luster fight (the 1st fight) which i have GGG winning 8-4. One could even argue 7-5 or 6-6, neither of them really showed any separation. The only reason that fight is viewed at with anger from the fans is because of ONE ridiculous score card from ONE judge.

Good assessment I think the draw was fair cus ggg kept his titles. Cenelo definitely beat him the 2nd time.

[dukesville]

DLH and Trinidad are way better than any victory ggg has but...they both came up in weight. It's a tough one.

[Boxing-1013]

He beat Canelo once from my point of view.....and it was a competitive lack luster fight (the 1st fight) which i have GGG winning 8-4. One could even argue 7-5 or 6-6, neither of them really showed any separation. The only reason that fight is viewed at with anger from the fans is because of ONE ridiculous score card from ONE judge.

I don't see how any honest person could get to 6 rounds for Canelo in either fight. He fought better in fight 2, but he still got outworked there too.

The overrating of Canelo's performances in those 2 fights is just weird to me. Sometimes your guy loses, it happens. Not a big deal. Don't need to try and act like he did better than he did.

Fair to argue GGG hasn't lived up to expectations in his biggest fights, especially vs Derevy, but that was the only close fight he has had on the cards for me.

[El Más Loco]

I don't see how any honest person could get to 6 rounds for Canelo in either fight. He fought better in fight 2, but he still got outworked there too.

The overrating of Canelo's performances in those 2 fights is just weird to me. Sometimes your guy loses, it happens. Not a big deal. Don't need to try and act like he did better than he did.

Fair to argue GGG hasn't lived up to expectations in his biggest fights, especially vs Derevy, but that was the only close fight he has had on the cards for me.

GGG didn't show any separation in either of the Canelo fights so I don't see how you don't see how people can that GGG didn't win those fights. I have no problem saying Canelo lost, as I already did say I felt he lost the 1st fight vs GGG.

And GGG vs Derevy was a flat out gift towards GGG. Golovkin CLEARLY got outworked that fight.

[Szef]

Golovkin beats him H2H and is the greater MW.

[Boxing-1013]

GGG didn't show any separation in either of the Canelo fights so I don't see how you don't see how people can that GGG didn't win those fights. I have no problem saying Canelo lost, as I already did say I felt he lost the 1st fight vs GGG.

And GGG vs Derevy was a flat out gift towards GGG. Golovkin CLEARLY got outworked that fight.

GGG outlanded Canelo in 10/11 rounds (1 tie) and then 8 of 11 rounds (1 tie) in the 2 fights. Those are compubox numbers but when I watch the fight - that is basically what I see as well.

Canelo fought well in spurts, but he wasn't in enough rounds to really have a claim to winning the fight. As a result, finding 5 or more rounds for Canelo in either fight is nearly impossible if you are scoring the fight based on the action.

Derevy outworked GGG for some rounds, no doubt about it. GGG stayed in the fight and some rounds because he didn't get outworked too heavily, and he landed the biggest shots of many rounds, leading to quite a few close rounds.

The KD also really helped him as now Sergei needed 7 rounds to get a result. 6 rounds wasn't good enough, and that's how I had it live when I watched it. GGG was probably up 2-0 in rounds after 2, so now Sergei needed to win 7 of the next 10. He came close if he didn't get there but it was a legitimate close fight.

Not the 'close fights' that people say for Canelo-GGG or Ward-Kov 1 etc. Those only had 1 winner