If you enjoy boxing more than MMA, why?

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  • CaneloBlue
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    #21
    Originally posted by tonysoprano
    Men in trunks rolling around on top of each other isn't fighting. Despite what MMA fans try to tell you grappling doesn't work when you can bite or gouge a guy's eyes out.

    And in real life if you get a guy down on the floor you don't try to submit him, you try and kick is head in or stomp his brains out.

    A lot of MMA fans have never seen or been near a real fight so they think this octagon bull**** is real fighting when it's nothing of the sort. Something UFC cheerleaders like Rogan encourage as well.
    No need to bash it. Just say you don’t like it. It’s an art in it’s own way.

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    • Nash out
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      #22
      I watch the big MMA fights, but even the highest level of MMA is just mild entertainment to me. A major boxing fight Canelo vs Golovkin, Fury vs Wilder, Ward vs Kovalev, Pac vs Marquez, Mayweather vs Hatton, etc, etc, just creates drama and entertainment that no other fighting sport can come close to matching for me. I love the theatrics of WWE, especially from around 96-2003 when they had so many top guys, including Stone Cold and The Rock. I've never been drawn to any MMA fighters personality. They are all quite bland to me, and the grappling and floor work is quite dull. Even the finishes usually leave me underwhelmed. But that's just Nash's views and reasons. But Nash is also known as the Great Nash, so we must respect him. Nash out.

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      • CaneloBlue
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        #23
        Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
        MMA provides solid entertainment from start to finish. Most fights are somewhat entertaining and the majority of fights on the card are only 15 mins long.

        Boxing undercards are often dull mismatches.

        A good boxing match > a good MMA fight.

        Not always but usually.
        Man, UFC stacks those f’king undercards so good! Boxing undercards are just Home Depot employees slugging it out. Part of it has to do with money. Not sure the exact details but I read that Al Haymon lost some serious money putting Khan-Collazo and Broner-Molina on the undercard of Mayweather vs Maidana 1.

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          #24
          Originally posted by tonysoprano
          Despite what MMA fans try to tell you most street fights don't end up on the floor because grappling doesn't work when you can bite or gouge a guy's eyes out.
          Biting and eye gouging would be hard as **** to do against a good grappler, but pretty easy for them to do to the guy that had the bright idea to try it.

          People dont really grapple in street fights because most are untrained and nobody wants to have some random dude turn up out of nowhere and punt their head off or stab them while they're rolling around. Grappling is full commitment to taking out one person, its not a preferable approach in those kinds of situations even if you're good at it.


          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          I like college wrestling and boxing. I am not a big MMA fan at all.

          I especially hate when guys are rolling around with their legs wrapped around one another.
          Lol but college wrestling has even more of that, minus the ground strikes and submissions.

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          • Dakuwaqa
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            #25
            Originally posted by CaneloBlue

            Man, UFC stacks those f’king undercards so good! Boxing undercards are just Home Depot employees slugging it out. Part of it has to do with money. Not sure the exact details but I read that Al Haymon lost some serious money putting Khan-Collazo and Broner-Molina on the undercard of Mayweather vs Maidana 1.
            That doesn’t surprise me!

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              #26
              There are many reasons, but the biggest for me is the 12 round strategy of breaking an opponent down, something that just doesn't happen in MMA. In MMA there isn't really body work that breaks an opponent down over the course of the fight, although body punching can be effective. The adjustments in boxing from round to round, the change in tactics, and the wearing down of fighters just exists in boxing a different way than MMA. And breaking down can happen in a number of ways, you can break them down with body work, break an opponent down with timing, with psychology. There are so many facets to the boxing game, it really is the Sweet Science. The different skill sets and strategies in boxing just make for more of a chess match.

              MMA is just totally different, there is a lot of skill there, but it's also less predictable because the rules allow for more types of strikes.

              And I always chuckle when people who know zero about street/bar fighting talk about how MMA fighters would beat boxers in a "real" fight because they'd just take them to the ground. I was a bouncer for several years, I've seen bar fights, street fights, and all out brawls. I broke them up, and ended them, and I survived them. I cannot say this emphatically enough, THE LAST PLACE YOU WANT TO BE IN A REAL FIGHT IS ON THE GROUND!!!! Keeping yourself on your feet is priority number 1, 2 and 3 in a real fight situation. On the ground you are going to get kicked in the head, it happens every time, fights are never 1 on 1. And if I see a fellow bouncer on the ground I'm going to end the threat from the guy who took him down. You take someone to the ground in a real fight and you're probably going to the hospital or worse.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
                MMA provides solid entertainment from start to finish. Most fights are somewhat entertaining and the majority of fights on the card are only 15 mins long.

                Boxing undercards are often dull mismatches.

                A good boxing match > a good MMA fight.

                Not always but usually.
                This sums it up well. Boxing at its peak is usually better but MMA tends to be more consistent with its entertainment value.

                I really hate how lazy and complacent boxing cards can be sometimes. That Fury/Whyte undercard being the most recent example. Its a ****ing stadium show on PPV both in the UK and the US and somehow with the combined resources of Top Rank and fish eyes they're giving us hours and hours of stuff like Isaac Lowe/Nick Ball and some 1-0 young kid vs a 1-5 can.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TMLT87

                  Biting and eye gouging would be hard as **** to do against a good grappler, but pretty easy for them to do to the guy that had the bright idea to try it.

                  People dont really grapple in street fights because most are untrained and nobody wants to have some random dude turn up out of nowhere and punt their head off or stab them while they're rolling around. Grappling is full commitment to taking out one person, its not a preferable approach in those kinds of situations even if you're good at it.




                  Lol but college wrestling has even more of that, minus the ground strikes and submissions.
                  Not really. They are trying to pin a dude, not wrap their legs around them and just hit them.

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                    #29
                    Boxing is something that’s been taught to me since I was 5 years old. MMA was something I learned to like because of Royce Gracie. Seeing him whip far bigger men made me want to learn it and it works .

                    I think the UFC does a far better job matching the best to the best yearly. Where boxing might do it once ever 4 years f we’re lucky.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Not really. They are trying to pin a dude, not wrap their legs around them and just hit them.
                      I guess its subjective but I dont get how rolling around on the floor would be tolerable when its just trying to pin someone vs doing the same thing but trying to break their limbs or knock them out instead.

                      MMAs ground game is pretty much a mix of folkstyle and BJJ. Probably most American MMA fighters are from a college wrestling background, its a huge part of MMA.

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