If you enjoy boxing more than MMA, why?

[sicko]

why can't we enjoy and be a fan of BOTH?

I love MMA just as much as I love Boxing, always have and I'm a day 1 MMA Fan since the beginning back when UFC first Started with guys like Royce Gracie, Tank Abbott, Dan Severn,, Ken Shamrock...also was a huge PRIDE FC fan which I discovered after Rampage Jackson real Power Bomb on Ricardo Arona went Viral

So I guess I'm just a combat Sports Junkie or something

[billeau2]

From my experience I have seen MMA start with professional level fighters (the Gracies) setting a precedent. After a while though, MMA became about gaming the skills needed in the ring more than about martial arts skills and how they translate to the ring. I have no problem with this change, it just does not interest me because most of what is needed are qualities that are characteristic of athletes not really fighters.

I did enjoy fighters like Rich Franklin who got by on cunning and good technical applications... Just see more guys who are just very strong and can ground and pound away...

[CaneloBlue]

why can't we enjoy and be a fan of BOTH?

I love MMA just as much as I love Boxing, always have and I'm a day 1 MMA Fan since the beginning back when UFC first Started with guys like Royce Gracie, Tank Abbott, Dan Severn,, Ken Shamrock...also was a huge PRIDE FC fan which I discovered after Rampage Jackson real Power Bomb on Ricardo Arona went Viral

So I guess I'm just a combat Sports Junkie or something

You can be a fan of both. Just curious as to why those who like boxing like boxing more.

[buddyr]

It’s just better. All round. Better sport, better rules, better history, better lineage, better fights, better fighters.

MMA will always be the red headed step child of boxing. I’m an MMA fan too, but it’ll never compare to boxing for me personally.

This is where you are wrong. !60 currently has 5 undefeated fighters in the top 10. 147 currently has 7 undefeated fighters in the top 10. SEVEN!!!!! What does that mean? That means the bests aren't fighting the best. There is no excuse for there to be 70% of the top 10 having undefeated records. This is what turns me off about boxing is that it's rare for us to get top fights. Mfers don't want to fight each other. The UFC forces the champion to always fight a top contender. it's not an option. I've been watching boxing as long as I've been alive and I've been tired of this cherry picking, multiple titles and damn near 20 weight classes BS for a long time. I dont have any favorites in either sport today so I am able to watch for enjoying without the groupie ***riding.

[Roadblock]

Boxing at its heart is purity and soul, no other combat sport commands that.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

This is where you are wrong. !60 currently has 5 undefeated fighters in the top 10. 147 currently has 7 undefeated fighters in the top 10. SEVEN!!!!! What does that mean? That means the bests aren't fighting the best. There is no excuse for there to be 70% of the top 10 having undefeated records. This is what turns me off about boxing is that it's rare for us to get top fights. Mfers don't want to fight each other. The UFC forces the champion to always fight a top contender. it's not an option. I've been watching boxing as long as I've been alive and I've been tired of this cherry picking, multiple titles and damn near 20 weight classes BS for a long time. I dont have any favorites in either sport today so I am able to watch for enjoying without the groupie ***riding.

The best don’t fight the best in MMA…

UFC is one company, just like PBC is, Top Rank is, Golden Boy is etc. UFC telling us Jan vs Glover is #1 vs #2 when in reality Vadim Nemkov beats both on the same night is no different to PBC telling us Spence and Porter was #1 vs #2 when we all know Crawford likely beats both.

Their rankings are completely bogus too, they put who they want where they want, they’re no better than the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO etc. Conor McGregor hasn’t won a fight at Lightweight in 6 years, yet I guarantee he’s still in the top 10. Why? Because he’s marketable and can help Dana fund his ******* habit. Same reason Brock got ranked and got a title shot despite being 1-1 in UFC and that only win was against Heath Herring, and even back then they tried to tell us a 2-1 Lesnar and 46 year old Couture were fighting for THE Heavyweight title whilst everyone knew Fedor was the true Heavyweight king of MMA.

People really need to see through the UFC propaganda man, this notion they make the best fight the best in the SPORT is completely laughable.

Apologies for the rant man but this myth UFC force the best to fight the best really p***es me off. I’ve been an MMA fan for years and I can honestly say I believe the world of MMA would be much healthier without UFC and their bullsh**.

[CaneloBlue]

The best don’t fight the best in MMA…

UFC is one company, just like PBC is, Top Rank is, Golden Boy is etc. UFC telling us Jan vs Glover is #1 vs #2 when in reality Vadim Nemkov beats both on the same night is no different to PBC telling us Spence and Porter was #1 vs #2 when we all know Crawford likely beats both.

Their rankings are completely bogus too, they put who they want where they want, they’re no better than the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO etc. Conor McGregor hasn’t won a fight at Lightweight in 6 years, yet I guarantee he’s still in the top 10. Why? Because he’s marketable and can help Dana fund his ******* habit. Same reason Brock got ranked and got a title shot despite being 1-1 in UFC and that only win was against Heath Herring, and even back then they tried to tell us a 2-1 Lesnar and 46 year old Couture were fighting for THE Heavyweight title whilst everyone knew Fedor was the true Heavyweight king of MMA.

People really need to see through the UFC propaganda man, this notion they make the best fight the best in the SPORT is completely laughable.

Apologies for the rant man but this myth UFC force the best to fight the best really p***es me off. I’ve been an MMA fan for years and I can honestly say I believe the world of MMA would be much healthier without UFC and their bullsh**.

No need apologize. I didn’t know any of this as I’m just a casual when it comes to MMA.

[buddyr]

The best don’t fight the best in MMA…

UFC is one company, just like PBC is, Top Rank is, Golden Boy is etc. UFC telling us Jan vs Glover is #1 vs #2 when in reality Vadim Nemkov beats both on the same night is no different to PBC telling us Spence and Porter was #1 vs #2 when we all know Crawford likely beats both.

Their rankings are completely bogus too, they put who they want where they want, they’re no better than the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO etc. Conor McGregor hasn’t won a fight at Lightweight in 6 years, yet I guarantee he’s still in the top 10. Why? Because he’s marketable and can help Dana fund his ******* habit. Same reason Brock got ranked and got a title shot despite being 1-1 in UFC and that only win was against Heath Herring, and even back then they tried to tell us a 2-1 Lesnar and 46 year old Couture were fighting for THE Heavyweight title whilst everyone knew Fedor was the true Heavyweight king of MMA.

People really need to see through the UFC propaganda man, this notion they make the best fight the best in the SPORT is completely laughable.

Apologies for the rant man but this myth UFC force the best to fight the best really p***es me off. I’ve been an MMA fan for years and I can honestly say I believe the world of MMA would be much healthier without UFC and their bullsh**.

yes they do fight each other. In ufc, bellator, and other federations. There aren't 7 or 8 belts per weight classes. Fighters don't get to cherry pick their opponents. There are examples of fights that happen. Bellator is always having tournaments. The only thing we don't see is Bellatr against UFC fighters unless they sign contracts. For every 1 fight in UFC you claim isn't happening, I have 5 in boxing. Personally I like boxing more, but boxing is at its worst state right now. It was bad enough geting fights made in the 80s and 90s and once the WBO became a major title around 2004, it was downhill from there. And now we've got interim unificatoin matches.. YOu agree with all of this bs? 8 titles per weight class, 17 weight classes, fighters ducking...

[TMLT87]

UFC telling us Jan vs Glover is #1 vs #2 when in reality Vadim Nemkov beats both on the same night

Yeah, but who is getting the next title shot? Jiri, who has a win over Nemkov.....

Not saying the UFCs own rankings are entirely fair and accurate, or that there arent good fighters outside of the UFC. McKee would probably be a legitimate threat to Volk, Adriano Moraes if he fought at 125 would be a threat to Figgy and Moreno, at a stretch maybe aging Mousasi could give Adesanya an interesting fight. Overall the UFC is clearly by far the strongest "league" though since Pride died. You have to go back like a decade to Strikeforces HW scene to find a division that 'could be seriously argued is better than its UFC equivalent, and the UFC eventually absorbed it into theirs anyway.

[TMLT87]

Conor McGregor hasn’t won a fight at Lightweight in 6 years, yet I guarantee he’s still in the top 10. Why? Because he’s marketable and can help Dana fund his ******* habit. Same reason Brock got ranked and got a title shot despite being 1-1 in UFC and that only win was against Heath Herring, and even back then they tried to tell us a 2-1 Lesnar and 46 year old Couture were fighting for THE Heavyweight title whilst everyone knew Fedor was the true Heavyweight king of MMA.

Yeah Conor shouldnt be in the top 10 anymore. I think one thing that helps him is the losses post-Floyd circus are only to two elite opponents, so we cant necessarily tell how he would do a step down from Khabib and Dustin level. Realistically he should be fighting somebody like Bobby Green or Fiziev at this point but they keep giving him the top guys in the hope that one time he might not lose.

As for Fedor, HW was in a weird transitional phase at that time, it was weak. He was still considered the top HW circa 08 but in hindsight he was already in decline. I think he would have beaten Randy pretty easily but Brock would have been a tough fight, Mir too. And by the end of 2010 all of those guys, Fedor included, were not viewed as title threat level HWs anymore.