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  • #61
    Originally posted by The_Executioner View Post
    Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.

    According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.

    "I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."

    Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

    Mayweather vs. Gatti. Lightning vs. Thunder. This was the original fight that was supposed to set up Mayweather vs. Cotto. As Mayweather said leading up to the fight, “thunder makes noise, but lightning strikes.” As Money May stunned viewers with a brutal 6th round stoppage, there was one spectator who was shocked more than any fan in attendance at Boardwalk Hall. His name? Miguel Cotto.

    After seeing Floyd’s dismantling of Gatti (chants of “easy work” coming from the Mayweather camp before the fight- remember?), the powers that be at Top Rank decided to back off the Mayweather talk and put their cash cow (Cotto) into more winnable fights. The writing was on the wall. The Mayweather fight was a chance they weren’t quite ready to take. Yet for some reason I keep hearing about how ‘May’ has ducked Cotto for years. But there’s more. Keep those helmets on folks, the rebuttal is just beginning. Let’s fast forward to April 8, 2006. Money May defeats Zabdiel (B.K.A. Zab, A.K.A. “Super”) Judah. During the fight, ‘May’ hurts his hand. We all know by now he has serious problems with his hands since back in the “Famoso” Hernandez days. So after the Judah fight, the plan was to get the hand healed up and come back late in 2006 or early 2007.

    Enter Antonio (A.K.A. Tony, B.K.A. “Hands of Stone”- sorry, I had to go there) Margarito. The offer made by Top Rank to Mayweather was to fight Margarito in August 2006 for $8 million. Did ‘May’ turn down the $8 million offer that people unwaveringly remind me about three years later? Of course he did. But nobody ever talks about the “why”. Why did he reject the offer?

    Okay, as you did with Webber earlier in the story, I want you to now become Money May. Now, I know this is going to be much harder for many readers because of your dislike of Floyd Mayweather. But that is exactly the point of this rebuttal piece- to show readers how tough it is to put oneself in another’s shoes. If you are honest with yourself, you’ll put your dislike for this man aside and keep your helmets on. Here we go.

    At this point in YOUR career (remember, it is YOU in Money May’s shoes at this juncture) you are 33-0 (22). This is the first pay per view you have headlined and you did about 400,000 buys and cleared close to maybe $4 million. Not bad. But you are three time champion at the time in three different weight classes (super featherweight, lightweight, super lightweight). Your first pay per view did well and you have become a star. You should have been a star earlier based on the resume’ you built in winning and defending your titles in multiple divisions. You beat guys like Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Gregorio Vargas, Emmanuel Augustus, Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo (twice), Chop Corley, Victoriano Sosa, and Phillip N’dou. You’ve put in the hard fights and feel you deserve “Golden Boy” type money. Nevertheless, Gatti was your best pay day so far.

    So now you are asked to fight Margarito for $8 million. Great offer, right? I’m sure the Mayweather camp thought so too. But then you are told it has to be in August and not November or December. Remember, you have a history of bad hands and you just hurt your hand in your last fight. Now you are being asked to fight a big welterweight (with a head made out of stone) within four months. So what do YOU do? As a superstar in the sport, don’t you owe it to yourself to be 100% in the biggest fight of your career? Remember, you are the #1 Pound for Pound guy on some lists at this point. You are not a star. You are a superstar! So what do YOU do?

    Well here is what ‘May’ did. Remember, we are sticking to the facts. No conjecture. He countered Top Rank’s offer and told them he would fight Margarito in August for the $8 million. The only stipulation was after he beat Margarito, he wanted Top Rank to guarantee him $10 million for the Cotto fight that would surely follow. How’s that for ducking Cotto and Margarito? These are the facts. But there’s more. Top Rank was only willing to guarantee $7 million for a Cotto fight, not the $10 million request.

    Okay readers, before I continue let’s do a little math. Cotto was Top Rank’s money fighter during this time. Agreed? I have my cyber helmet on now and I’ll put myself in Money May’s shoes for a minute. Why would I fight Antonio Margarito for $8 million and then come back and fight the money guy, THE MONEY guy Cotto for $1 million less? It doesn’t make sense. So I ask you once again. Put yourself in May’s shoes. What would YOU do?

    Once Top Rank wouldn’t budge, ‘May’ wrote a check for $750,000 and told Top Rank that he no longer needed their services. He bought his contract out. Let me add that he also asked Top Rank to get him $20 million for a De La Hoya fight. Top Rank didn’t think there was $20 million for him to make on that fight. In a manner of speaking, they were correct. Money May went on to make $30 million for the De La Hoya fight and probably at least $20 million from the Hatton tussle. Not to mention $8 million (amount sound familiar?) for the fight with Carlos Baldomir. He will also receive eight figures for the Marquez fight. He sold himself as the bad guy and a few 24/7 episodes later it has paid off for him. So I ask you one last time… what would YOU do?

    If you are honest with yourself and think about your family’s best interests, I think you now understand how Money May earned his nickname. If you are not honest with yourself…well… you don’t have to like him. Just respect what he did and how he did it. One more thing. LEAVE MONEY MAY ALONE!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
      Yes. It has nothing to do with the De La Hoya fight. In between the 12 months (April 06 and May 07) where he only fought Baldomir. I'd have fought Margarito in August for $8 mil, Baldomir in December for another $8-9 mil, and had 5+ months left over to rest and prepare for the De La Hoya fight.

      That's just me. Money May does what gets him more money though so I don't know.

      Mayweather vs. Gatti. Lightning vs. Thunder. This was the original fight that was supposed to set up Mayweather vs. Cotto. As Mayweather said leading up to the fight, “thunder makes noise, but lightning strikes.” As Money May stunned viewers with a brutal 6th round stoppage, there was one spectator who was shocked more than any fan in attendance at Boardwalk Hall. His name? Miguel Cotto.

      After seeing Floyd’s dismantling of Gatti (chants of “easy work” coming from the Mayweather camp before the fight- remember?), the powers that be at Top Rank decided to back off the Mayweather talk and put their cash cow (Cotto) into more winnable fights. The writing was on the wall. The Mayweather fight was a chance they weren’t quite ready to take. Yet for some reason I keep hearing about how ‘May’ has ducked Cotto for years. But there’s more. Keep those helmets on folks, the rebuttal is just beginning. Let’s fast forward to April 8, 2006. Money May defeats Zabdiel (B.K.A. Zab, A.K.A. “Super”) Judah. During the fight, ‘May’ hurts his hand. We all know by now he has serious problems with his hands since back in the “Famoso” Hernandez days. So after the Judah fight, the plan was to get the hand healed up and come back late in 2006 or early 2007.

      Enter Antonio (A.K.A. Tony, B.K.A. “Hands of Stone”- sorry, I had to go there) Margarito. The offer made by Top Rank to Mayweather was to fight Margarito in August 2006 for $8 million. Did ‘May’ turn down the $8 million offer that people unwaveringly remind me about three years later? Of course he did. But nobody ever talks about the “why”. Why did he reject the offer?

      Okay, as you did with Webber earlier in the story, I want you to now become Money May. Now, I know this is going to be much harder for many readers because of your dislike of Floyd Mayweather. But that is exactly the point of this rebuttal piece- to show readers how tough it is to put oneself in another’s shoes. If you are honest with yourself, you’ll put your dislike for this man aside and keep your helmets on. Here we go.

      At this point in YOUR career (remember, it is YOU in Money May’s shoes at this juncture) you are 33-0 (22). This is the first pay per view you have headlined and you did about 400,000 buys and cleared close to maybe $4 million. Not bad. But you are three time champion at the time in three different weight classes (super featherweight, lightweight, super lightweight). Your first pay per view did well and you have become a star. You should have been a star earlier based on the resume’ you built in winning and defending your titles in multiple divisions. You beat guys like Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Gregorio Vargas, Emmanuel Augustus, Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo (twice), Chop Corley, Victoriano Sosa, and Phillip N’dou. You’ve put in the hard fights and feel you deserve “Golden Boy” type money. Nevertheless, Gatti was your best pay day so far.

      So now you are asked to fight Margarito for $8 million. Great offer, right? I’m sure the Mayweather camp thought so too. But then you are told it has to be in August and not November or December. Remember, you have a history of bad hands and you just hurt your hand in your last fight. Now you are being asked to fight a big welterweight (with a head made out of stone) within four months. So what do YOU do? As a superstar in the sport, don’t you owe it to yourself to be 100% in the biggest fight of your career? Remember, you are the #1 Pound for Pound guy on some lists at this point. You are not a star. You are a superstar! So what do YOU do?

      Well here is what ‘May’ did. Remember, we are sticking to the facts. No conjecture. He countered Top Rank’s offer and told them he would fight Margarito in August for the $8 million. The only stipulation was after he beat Margarito, he wanted Top Rank to guarantee him $10 million for the Cotto fight that would surely follow. How’s that for ducking Cotto and Margarito? These are the facts. But there’s more. Top Rank was only willing to guarantee $7 million for a Cotto fight, not the $10 million request.

      Okay readers, before I continue let’s do a little math. Cotto was Top Rank’s money fighter during this time. Agreed? I have my cyber helmet on now and I’ll put myself in Money May’s shoes for a minute. Why would I fight Antonio Margarito for $8 million and then come back and fight the money guy, THE MONEY guy Cotto for $1 million less? It doesn’t make sense. So I ask you once again. Put yourself in May’s shoes. What would YOU do?

      Once Top Rank wouldn’t budge, ‘May’ wrote a check for $750,000 and told Top Rank that he no longer needed their services. He bought his contract out. Let me add that he also asked Top Rank to get him $20 million for a De La Hoya fight. Top Rank didn’t think there was $20 million for him to make on that fight. In a manner of speaking, they were correct. Money May went on to make $30 million for the De La Hoya fight and probably at least $20 million from the Hatton tussle. Not to mention $8 million (amount sound familiar?) for the fight with Carlos Baldomir. He will also receive eight figures for the Marquez fight. He sold himself as the bad guy and a few 24/7 episodes later it has paid off for him. So I ask you one last time… what would YOU do?

      If you are honest with yourself and think about your family’s best interests, I think you now understand how Money May earned his nickname. If you are not honest with yourself…well… you don’t have to like him. Just respect what he did and how he did it. One more thing. LEAVE MONEY MAY ALONE!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Unbiased View Post
        i think most of the original poster's list is reaching.

        But before he "retired" he reaaallllllly had no excuse to avoid Cotto and Margarito. In that order.
        he didnt avoid cotto. top rank kept cotto from floyd and wanted to ahve marg fight floyd for 8 miil. floyd said he would fight marg later in the year and he wanted to fight cotto afterward for a garauteed 10mil. but they didnt want to give that much for a fight. they wanted to get floyd 1 mil less to fight cotto than to fight marg.

        floyd said he would fight both marg and cotto and would fight marg first but arum didnt want to agree to the terms floyd wanted

        "Mayweather vs. Gatti. Lightning vs. Thunder. This was the original fight that was supposed to set up Mayweather vs. Cotto. As Mayweather said leading up to the fight, “thunder makes noise, but lightning strikes.” As Money May stunned viewers with a brutal 6th round stoppage, there was one spectator who was shocked more than any fan in attendance at Boardwalk Hall. His name? Miguel Cotto.

        After seeing Floyd’s dismantling of Gatti (chants of “easy work” coming from the Mayweather camp before the fight- remember?), the powers that be at Top Rank decided to back off the Mayweather talk and put their cash cow (Cotto) into more winnable fights. The writing was on the wall. The Mayweather fight was a chance they weren’t quite ready to take. Yet for some reason I keep hearing about how ‘May’ has ducked Cotto for years. But there’s more. Keep those helmets on folks, the rebuttal is just beginning. Let’s fast forward to April 8, 2006. Money May defeats Zabdiel (B.K.A. Zab, A.K.A. “Super”) Judah. During the fight, ‘May’ hurts his hand. We all know by now he has serious problems with his hands since back in the “Famoso” Hernandez days. So after the Judah fight, the plan was to get the hand healed up and come back late in 2006 or early 2007.

        Enter Antonio (A.K.A. Tony, B.K.A. “Hands of Stone”- sorry, I had to go there) Margarito. The offer made by Top Rank to Mayweather was to fight Margarito in August 2006 for $8 million. Did ‘May’ turn down the $8 million offer that people unwaveringly remind me about three years later? Of course he did. But nobody ever talks about the “why”. Why did he reject the offer?

        Okay, as you did with Webber earlier in the story, I want you to now become Money May. Now, I know this is going to be much harder for many readers because of your dislike of Floyd Mayweather. But that is exactly the point of this rebuttal piece- to show readers how tough it is to put oneself in another’s shoes. If you are honest with yourself, you’ll put your dislike for this man aside and keep your helmets on. Here we go.

        At this point in YOUR career (remember, it is YOU in Money May’s shoes at this juncture) you are 33-0 (22). This is the first pay per view you have headlined and you did about 400,000 buys and cleared close to maybe $4 million. Not bad. But you are three time champion at the time in three different weight classes (super featherweight, lightweight, super lightweight). Your first pay per view did well and you have become a star. You should have been a star earlier based on the resume’ you built in winning and defending your titles in multiple divisions. You beat guys like Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Gregorio Vargas, Emmanuel Augustus, Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo (twice), Chop Corley, Victoriano Sosa, and Phillip N’dou. You’ve put in the hard fights and feel you deserve “Golden Boy” type money. Nevertheless, Gatti was your best pay day so far.

        So now you are asked to fight Margarito for $8 million. Great offer, right? I’m sure the Mayweather camp thought so too. But then you are told it has to be in August and not November or December. Remember, you have a history of bad hands and you just hurt your hand in your last fight. Now you are being asked to fight a big welterweight (with a head made out of stone) within four months. So what do YOU do? As a superstar in the sport, don’t you owe it to yourself to be 100% in the biggest fight of your career? Remember, you are the #1 Pound for Pound guy on some lists at this point. You are not a star. You are a superstar! So what do YOU do?

        Well here is what ‘May’ did. Remember, we are sticking to the facts. No conjecture. He countered Top Rank’s offer and told them he would fight Margarito in August for the $8 million. The only stipulation was after he beat Margarito, he wanted Top Rank to guarantee him $10 million for the Cotto fight that would surely follow. How’s that for ducking Cotto and Margarito? These are the facts. But there’s more. Top Rank was only willing to guarantee $7 million for a Cotto fight, not the $10 million request.

        Okay readers, before I continue let’s do a little math. Cotto was Top Rank’s money fighter during this time. Agreed? I have my cyber helmet on now and I’ll put myself in Money May’s shoes for a minute. Why would I fight Antonio Margarito for $8 million and then come back and fight the money guy, THE MONEY guy Cotto for $1 million less? It doesn’t make sense. So I ask you once again. Put yourself in May’s shoes. What would YOU do?

        Once Top Rank wouldn’t budge, ‘May’ wrote a check for $750,000 and told Top Rank that he no longer needed their services. He bought his contract out. Let me add that he also asked Top Rank to get him $20 million for a De La Hoya fight. Top Rank didn’t think there was $20 million for him to make on that fight. In a manner of speaking, they were correct. Money May went on to make $30 million for the De La Hoya fight and probably at least $20 million from the Hatton tussle. Not to mention $8 million (amount sound familiar?) for the fight with Carlos Baldomir. He will also receive eight figures for the Marquez fight. He sold himself as the bad guy and a few 24/7 episodes later it has paid off for him. So I ask you one last time… what would YOU do?

        If you are honest with yourself and think about your family’s best interests, I think you now understand how Money May earned his nickname. If you are not honest with yourself…well… you don’t have to like him. Just respect what he did and how he did it. One more thing. LEAVE MONEY MAY ALONE!
        "

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Stewie Cruise View Post


          While you can fight everybody in boxing i have to agree with some names on this list, Margarito..Casamayor.. But its easy to counter all these claims by saying he fought castillo and corrales who beat Stevie johnston..

          I really dont know why Tsyzu was on the list because there wasnt any chance of that fight happening due to Tsyzu's injuries and mandatory stacking up by the time he was healed up enough to fight.

          Mosley fight could/should have happen but i blame both for the fight not happening, Pacquiao shouldnt even be on the list, Spadafora i dont really know much about that situation..But i think the Cotto one is just timing.

          So the Margarito and casamayor one stands out..
          again...he didnt duck marg. he told top rank he would fight marg but wanted to fight him later in the year. and with him agreeing to fight marg, he said wanted cotto for 10mil.

          top rank didnt want the fight to happen against marg later in the year and they didnt want to give floyd 10 mil for fighting cotto. they only wanted to give him 7mil WTF

          they didnt want to agree to the terms so floyd went on to fight other people

          blame top rank. he also called out casa

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          • #65
            Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
            1. Joel Casamayor
            2. Miguel Cotto
            3. Leonard Dorin
            4. Acelino Freitas
            5. Stevie Johnston
            6. Antonio Margarito
            7. Shane Mosley
            8. Manny Pacquiao
            9. Paul Spadafora
            10. Kostya Tszyu

            Michael Rosenthal

            Some of these are legit and others are just reaching.
            Dorin??? Freitas?? Spadafora?

            Get...the ****......out.......

            Mayweather v Johnston would've been great

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            • #66
              Originally posted by 2501 View Post
              Well, in your opnion, did Mitchell deserve it more than Margarito? At the time, was Mitchell a better fight in regards to legacy than Margo?
              Mitchell was a tune-up...his first fight at 147

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              • #67
                Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
                1. Joel Casamayor
                2. Miguel Cotto
                3. Leonard Dorin
                4. Acelino Freitas
                5. Stevie Johnston
                6. Antonio Margarito
                7. Shane Mosley
                8. Manny Pacquiao
                9. Paul Spadafora
                10. Kostya Tszyu

                Michael Rosenthal

                Some of these are legit and others are just reaching.
                MICHAEL ROSENTHAL is a proven IDIOT..!!!!!

                google him and read his ****, and you will realize this guy makes up more **** than we can think of..
                Proven.
                Last edited by Horus; 09-16-2009, 01:13 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Horus View Post
                  MICHAEL ROSENTHAL is a proven IDIOT..!!!!!
                  Proven.
                  YOU are are a proven IDIOT!!!!
                  Proven.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle View Post
                    YOU are are a proven IDIOT!!!!
                    Proven.
                    You are Proven F@GGOT!!!.
                    Proven.

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                    • #70
                      I can sum up the list in two words: the best.

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