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  • #21
    Canelo comes from circus people. They headlined him, but they brought a big show. His undercards had fight of the year quality, while he got the lions share. Bud is a one man show.
    Last edited by Corelone; 03-29-2022, 10:49 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Since1976 View Post
      Crawford and his lawyer should have been more clear.. seems to be lots of interpretations about this situation. Just an opinion, but I think its an Atlanta Hawks type situation "... not enough affluent black fans..." So Bob may not think that certain fighters are not marketable based on their ethnicity and his interpretation of how the markets work. Anyways, if we think of what he said about UFC & MMA guys years ago, one can only imagine his real views on things.

      Racism is hard to prove in this case, but incompetence would have been easy.
      Great post! In the past Bob admitted he didn't know how to properly market Mayweather to the "urban" communities. He somehow learned how to market to the Latino community, but it's ironic that he can't market to English-Speaking communities that his fighters (Mayweather, Crawford, Stevenson, Carrington) come from? Doesn't make him racist, but it's definitely hard to comprehend?

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      • #23
        Uncle Bob isn't racist. Someone pointed it out in an earlier post about social media today & the access to athletes on FB, instagram,Tweeter, Tik Tak, etc, etc. Look at that Paul guys PPV numbers. Although I must say I will never forget Bob when he had Tye Fields headlining on Vs channel for a few years. He fought Releford, Koval, Dom Jenkins & rederick Willis on the network.

        After the Willis fight the guy interviewing asked Bob when he was going to finally step up Field's level of competition. Bob said he was going to fight Rahman next. Bob then followed it up with Tye is big, good looking, has power, is athletic, is charismatic & he is WHITE!!! Hahaha! The Rahman fight fell thru & Uncle Bob put Tye in the co-main event on a Pacquiao undercard against Monte Barrett...

        Bob dumped him & Tye moved up to Canada in my city of Edmonton. Here is a surprising note. Fields made quite a bit of money boxing. He headlined a lot of events in the US & here in Canada. He headlined a lot of TV events & fought on 2 PPV against Grant on one & on the Pacquiao undercard in the other. His estimated worth is between 4-7 million. He played overseas basketball for a few years then got into boxing. They don't lie when they say HW boxing pays but I'm sure a large portion of his earnings came from basketball...

        Tye Fields is a multi millionaire & he never played in the NBA & never really made a big splash in boxing at the world level. He done pretty well for himself & being a white HW helped his marketability.
        Last edited by joe strong; 03-29-2022, 11:48 AM.

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        • #24
          Arum is just an old greedy man. He knows the sport and the business part very well.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post

            This isn't the old days bro. People want to know about the fighter themselves, Arum can't fulfill that part. With social media now a big thing why would anyone want to hear from the promoter? Celebrity access is the big thing now. Not saying it all has to be on Crawford, but there's only so much the promoter can do. Especially Crawford's market, black folks don't want to listen to some old white guy talk
            Good points, good post!

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            • #26
              That's interesting, that he said Crawford didn't help much in the promotion of his fights.

              He does seem like a quiet guy, and most fighters don't really speak a lot or have the charisma of a Tyson Fury.

              A defensive master, but not perhaps one with the most widespread appeal, in Mayweather, still knew how to sell his fights. It was kinda like well, pay to see him win or lose, you're still paying.

              Bud needs a big name win, and the Porter victory wasn't enough. He needs a win over Spence, a top contender like Ennis or Ortiz Jr, or move to middleweight and make waves there.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
                Arum was so racist that he overpaid Bud for years when he wasn’t bringing anything back.
                Bud getting a reality check currently. Been almost 5 months since his split and he still hasn’t made any moves.
                Canelo got out of his DAZN/Golden Boy deal and within weeks had fights lined up and just chose between two competing $100 million plus deals.
                Levels to this.
                You have no clue what kind of interest Crawford has received from companies just because you haven’t heard anything. Maybe he already has a deal with pbc but they’re waiting until after the Spence vs Ugas unification to announce anything. Bringing up canelo is irrelevant as he’s had a built in nationalistic fan base, so promoting him is much easier. Just like arum was able to successfully promote Cotto despite his bland personality , because he had a nationalistic fan base built in. Crawford doesn’t have that so that means the promotor needs to do his job better, not blame the fighter because you want him to do a portion of the job you’re taking a significant % to do. Crawford’s job is to fight and win impressively which he has done consistently.
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                • #28
                  Originally posted by NCBoxingPro View Post

                  Same thing applies to the promoter too. You're right this isn't the old days. The promotion company should adjust with the times and hire a Social media team so they can get the "people" to get to know the fighter. He's the promoter and that's his job to do that. That's what's he's paid to do. Period. Remember....Bob also didn't give him the Pac fight that was also promised in the initial contract...people forget that. That was reason he signed with Top Rank in the first place.

                  Bob's definitely not a racist, but seriously needs to bring in some Fresh eyes to bring them up with the times. Because as you say...this isn't the old days. Top Rank needs to step their game up because they're falling by the wayside.
                  I agree, it isn't solely on the fighter to adjust with the times. Having said that though there still is only so much he can do. As you said, hiring a social media team is a great idea but Bud would have to be open to that. He would need to be comfortable or on board with letting them into certain parts of his life, which it doesn't seem he wants to do all that much. Someone who isn't crazy outgoing like Ward even understood this. A huge platform like ESPN should have no problem getting the fighters they are aligned to out there also.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                    You’re paid to promote nowadays. It’s literally in the contracts that you have to do x, y and z on your social media, attend said promotional events. It’s crazy but it’s how business is done these days.
                    Yeah that's crazy to me and if that's the case Bud should have someone in his camp doing P.R. on social media for him or his promoter should one. I just cant understand how we got beyond the old days where a promoter hyped the fight up as the fight of the century and the fighter performed to the best of their ability ya know. Maybe I'm just getting old Lol

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                      You have no clue what kind of interest Crawford has received from companies just because you haven’t heard anything. Maybe he already has a deal with pbc but they’re waiting until after the Spence vs Ugas unification to announce anything. Bringing up canelo is irrelevant as he’s had a built in nationalistic fan base, so promoting him is much easier. Just like arum was able to successfully promote Cotto despite his bland personality , because he had a nationalistic fan base built in. Crawford doesn’t have that so that means the promotor needs to do his job better, not blame the fighter because you want him to do a portion of the job you’re taking a significant % to do. Crawford’s job is to fight and win impressively which he has done consistently.
                      Yeah you’re right buddy. A guy in his mid 30’s who can’t sell out a barn in Nebraska and who can’t draw flies to **** is just swimming in offers lol
                      Instead he went across the pond to help train Amir Khan to get sparked out because he had nothing better to do and is suing Arum because he thinks that will be his best payday.
                      Bud wasted his prime earning years hiding behind Arum and Top Rank and now reality is setting in. Keep dreaming he has some big plans in the works.

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