So is Wilder gone for good now?

[Inspired]

He can beat AJ for sure. AJ is a big timid static target, tailor made for Wilder, AJ wouldn’t have the bravery needed and would be a sitting duck.

Joyce is too easy to hit, he might have a solid chin but he has been knocked out in the amateurs, so Wilder would crack the chin. But barring Usyk, Joyce is the only one I’d give a chance to on that list because he would have the balls to try to put Wilder on the back foot.

Ruiz is a B or C level fighter, one good night v AJ, but his true level is close fights with Parker or getting dropped in a tough fight with a shot Arreola. He’s really not a top fighter, never was, living off one night v a chinny AJ. Wilder would starch Ruiz.

Well, the Wilder in the past would have beaten everyone in your list barring Usyk but not sure what he has left, Fury has ruined him in those fights. Usyk would beat him but even he’s hittable, and I doubt he takes the power.

and you know that how? wilder has zero resume...and the ortiz 2 fight wasa fix. he needed to cheat to win the first ortiz fight...and ortiz was never proven either.
would ortiz beat pulev?

[GhostofDempsey]

I think that last beat down broke his soul. He was already shook going into that fight. He looked defeated at the one press conference he bothered to show up for, and ran out of excuses in this last drubbing. He will be 37 this year and the longer he is away, the harder it will be to come back. Only way I see him coming back is if he can wait out Fury to retire.

[REDEEMER]

and you know that how? wilder has zero resume...and the ortiz 2 fight wasa fix. he needed to cheat to win the first ortiz fight...and ortiz was never proven either.
would ortiz beat pulev?

Always wanted to see that Pulev fight but I would think Pulev makes an entirely frustrating fight and wins against Ortiz in a UD win . Pulev was always highly underrated, Arum guaranteed he’d knock A.J out ,Pulev is one of those not so easy fights but A.J should have stopped him in the third round according to the rules of boxing . If Pulev was on Wilders or Furys win column I guarantee he’d be the boogeyman on here .

[just the facts]

The integrity of boxing is my agenda, you got that right.

Your posts tell a different story

[REDEEMER]

I’ll ask again, when a fighter suffers two brutal stoppage losses, is it unreasonable for him to take some time and figure out where he is personally and professionally?

The rest of this is just the usual anti Wilder bull shyte you always spew. I’ve asked you before and you’ve always dodged the question but I’ll try again. What’s with your weird negative obsession with Wilder?

I didn’t say anything about taking some time off but in Wilders case he doesnt have the boxing abilities to do that it will be a detriment . He’s clearly not going to get better at least on a physical level ,but I know you’ll argue that even with surgeries piling up he’s had so far but that’s because you are being a fanboy not a realist .

Again no one on here said anything untrue that hasn’t been proven ,right now there’s nothing Wilder will do to over shadow his Fury losses and that’s only because of the comedy he’s brought around him prior to those fights which became material for possibly the most embarrassing defeats not because he lost the way he did but what he said leading up to the fights ,you are trying way to hard to be sensible,you don’t even come close to it regarding any Wilder talks .

The so called anti Wilder stuff you blame others on making up are actually created by Wilder himself for others to use ,do you even realize that and using the word facts in your user name something I rarely see you do on here is probably something you also fail to see ?

[Toffee]

I think he's done. The guy has made his money and he isn't the kind of guy who seeks the limelight.

He'll just spend the rest of his days living like a king in Alabama.

Probably.

My criticism of his resume shouldn't be taken too critically by the way.

He was an amateur basketballer who became a boxing Olympian and then a reigning heavyweight champion... and made millions.

I'm a big fan of his story as long as it's told in the right light. He never proved himself in elite company but don't let that distract you from what he did prove. He beat some very good professional heavyweights.

His achievements would be acknowledged as exceptional if we accepted that not everyone is either elite or trash. There's plenty of in between. Irish Micky Ward wasn't a great, he was just a great story - Wilder is closer to that territory.