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  • Inoue Body Shot
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    #51
    Canelo Alvarez is hands down the best fighter on the planet today. No question. I want to see if Canelo can takeover the 175 pound division.

    Canelo is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time. Chavez Sr. even stated that.

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    • just the facts
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      #52
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      if p rime nel o fought any version of floyd , Floyd fans Would say why nel o ducking bivol, beterbiev, charlo?
      let's face it, Floyd fans never had any urgency for Floyd to fight toughest available whether it was thurman, spence and bud
      It’s passed time for you to accept reality. Floyd EASILY beat your hero (Pac). You making ignorant negative post after ignorant negative post about Floyd will never change that.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Silence

        Yeah he is so invincible that got outboxed by semi-blind Brook and gatekeeper Porter.
        Nope. He dominated those fights from round one until he finished them off. He completely outclassed and dissected them. Neither one of them managed to hit him during those fights. Canelo isn’t on his level. He would completely outbox Canelo if they were in the same division.
        Last edited by Carpe Diem; 03-27-2022, 01:03 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Carpe Diem

          Nope. He dominated those fights from round one until he finished them off. He completely outclassed and dissected them. Canelo isn’t on his level. He would completely outbox Canelo if they were in the same
          division.
          Crawford can't even beat 2013 baby Canelo at the same size let alone prime Canelo.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Silence

            Crawford can't even beat 2013 baby Canelo at the same size let alone prime Canelo.

            He would’ve completely schooled that version of Canelo. Canelo is still the same fighter then as he is now, he’s just bigger and stronger now. Crawford would’ve schooled him. Crawford is the best boxer ever.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Carpe Diem


              He would’ve completely schooled that version of Canelo. Canelo is still the same fighter then as he is now, he’s just bigger and stronger now. Crawford would’ve schooled him. Crawford is the best boxer ever.
              Crawfish is still the same bum who gets f**ked by Arum everyday.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Silence

                Crawfish is still the same bum who gets f**ked by Arum everyday.
                That’s irrelevant. Crawford would school Clenelo.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  What elite fighter did Floyd dominate. Of course bloating up fighters, draining green fighters, or beating old fighters don't count. So I'm finding it hard to think of even one.
                  Just beating fighters with excellent resumes behind them and who are highly rated pfp doesn't make them elite wins automatically. As if nelo beating fighters with zeros is nothing to brag about?
                  Nelo could bloat bud up to 160, would it be dominating an elite fighter if he won comfortably? If nelo beats a 40 year old GGG would it be win over elite fighter?
                  Alvarez. Floyd Mayweather was there for the taking at that stage of his career, this is proven by how much he struggled with Maidana after the Alvarez fight. But nevertheless, Mayweather still beat Alvarez 12-0 to 12-1, complete and utter domination. Floyd Mayweather did not weight drain Alvarez, I am not sure whether you are clued up on Alvarez's tactics? He actually voluntary weight drains himself in order to be the big man 'That has been his whole game in his career, he still does it today'.

                  Drains himself to be the big man.

                  That game back fired vs Mayweather. And he was beaten easy, by a Mayweather nowhere near his peak. Skill for skill he was shown a different level, and his lack of gears and endurance was also exposed by Mayweather.

                  Diego Corrales, was regarded as Super Elite when Mayweather fought him 'And he was ****** out'.

                  Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya all of these fighters where at the time, when Mayweather fought them regarded as super elite. Canelo Alvarez has only fought 2 elite fighters, and those were Floyd Mayweather Junior & Golovkin.

                  Note: There is a level below super elite, and that level is upper world class. Mayweather has beaten way more upper world class fighters than Alvarez.

                  Billy Joe Saunders, Caleb Plant, Liam Smith, Callum Smith, Rocky Fielding come on? These guys are just mere contenders for past middle-weight champions. Carl Froch & Joe Calzaghe would beat all of them fighters more impressively than Alvarez.

                  Outside of the controversial Golovkin fights, what is Alvarez's best win? Listen mate you can't talk, you can't sit there and criticize Mayweather's opponents.

                  Alvarez has forced fighters quickly into fights, giving them only a few weeks of preparation 'Callum Smith was only given 4 weeks'. He has done this time and time again. Floyd Mayweather Junior, whether he was facing a super elite fighter, upper world class, or world class fighters gave all of his opponents optimal time to prepare.

                  Why was Callum Smith only given 4 weeks to prepare before the Alvarez fight? Are you going to come back here, and answer this question?

                  Try and find me a situation as a champion in Floyd Mayweather Junior's career, were he forced a fighter into a quick fight? How much time was Sergey Kovalev given before facing Alavrez, 5-6 weeks ?

                  Sergey Kovalev prior to fighting Alvarez endured 11 round war. He was in my opinion, not provided with the optimal time to recover and then implement a solid training camp before fighting Alvarez.

                  Bottom line is, Alvarez has not shown that he has the ability to dominate elite level fighters. He has not shown that he can separate himself completely from the pack 'These are just the facts mate, ether you can deal with them or you cannot'.



                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-27-2022, 02:11 PM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Floyd Sinclair
                    His skills are a B, hes more disciplined but nowhere near as skilled as Toney

                    Canelo's had a few good victories but most of them have come against guys that had no chance like the undersized Khan or the talentless brawler Kirkland, lets not forget the washed up well past his prime alcoholic Kovalev
                    - - Take the Blubber Test. Stay tuned, folks, this gonna git GOOD!

                    Name a single fight where Two Ton showed his sublime skills. Roy was skilled sublimely, and made Two Ton look like Two Tons of Whale Blubber.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                      Alvarez. Floyd Mayweather was there for the taking at that stage of his career, this is proven by how much he struggled with Maidana after the Alvarez fight. But nevertheless, Mayweather still beat Alvarez 12-0 to 12-1, complete and utter domination. Floyd Mayweather did not weight drain Alvarez, I am not sure whether you are clued up on Alvarez's tactics? He actually voluntary weight drains himself in order to be the big man 'That has been his whole game in his career, he still does it today'.

                      Kiddy Koolaide is it again?

                      l'l floydy needed Kenny help to interfere with Canelo and still only managed to sc**** by with a Majority Decision, ie referee: Kenny Bayless | Craig Metcalfe 111-117 | Dave Moretti 112-116 | CJ Ross 114-114.

                      That's 2 points from a Majority Draw to go wif U Purple Slurple.

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