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  • #31
    What would be the point of a Wallin fight? (What's the point of Otto Wallin?)
    May as well stick to some bigger name/bigger selling fights (not suggesting they'll happen) e.g:
    Joyce
    Dubois
    Helenius is old but might be entertaining and coming off the back of destroying a well exposed Kownacki twice in a row.
    Wilder (would be a stadium sell out).
    Perhaps testing himself vs Gassiev?

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    • #32
      AJ is fighting Joseph Parker next in an epic rematch for the ages. He’s coming off 2 huge wins over perennial punching bag and Anthony joshua mentor Dereck chisora. AJ fighting wilder Joyce Dubois ortiz is laughable. He only fought Usyk the same reason he fought Andy ruiz the first time. They thought it was easy work. Only doing the rematch because he has too but it’s not like he got knocked out or it was a lucky punch Usyk beat him pole to pole and he’ll most likely do it again

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      • #33
        Joyce beats Joshua, so no way this fight happens.

        Wilder would be another great choice.

        Wallin and Ortiz? Meh, not interested. That level guys should fight each other.
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        • #34
          Don’t underestimate Wallin, it would not surprise me at all if he eeked out an ugly points win over Joshua.

          Ortiz did not look good at all in his last bout, Martin had him in a whole heap of trouble, if that were Joshua, he would have finished him so I would pick Joshua via early to mid KO over Ortiz.

          Joyce I think is a bit overrated, yeah he is big and strong and has a great chin, but then again it really hasn’t been tested against a big hitter, Joshua would most certainly test that chin. Joyce is also as slow as molasses, I would pick Joshua here on a likely points win.

          Would be great to see Joshua vs Wilder, but I highly doubt Wilder would take that fight after his loss to Fury and what will likely be a fairly long layoff by the time he gets back into the wrong, he will want a soft touch to get his confidence back first, so don’t expect that fight next. But when that fight happens, I expect Wilder will have Joshua in all kinds of trouble early to mid rounds and likely KO him.
          Last edited by mawoodhouse; 03-12-2022, 03:16 PM.

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          • #35
            Would like to see something happen, all these guys are well into their 30's, Ortiz is even older.Hard to make legendary resume's when so few fights are made.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by P to the J View Post

              Bizarre thing to say. When’s the last time Joshua fought someone truly trash? I think you could make an argument for Takam or even Molina, since AJ fought him when he was starting dive to the canvas for easy cash.

              Otherwise, everyone else has been the middling to more competent sort: round about the level of the 3 mentioned here.
              AJ/Hearn haters have to keep trashing AJ’s resume though, because apart from 2 of Fury’s opponents and 2 of Wilders, all they’ve ever fought are actual bums. It’s true that AJ is a big stiff bodybuilder, but he’s still managed to put together by far the deepest resume in the HW division because he actually fights people.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post
                AJ is fighting Joseph Parker next in an epic rematch for the ages. He’s coming off 2 huge wins over perennial punching bag and Anthony joshua mentor Dereck chisora. AJ fighting wilder Joyce Dubois ortiz is laughable. He only fought Usyk the same reason he fought Andy ruiz the first time. They thought it was easy work. Only doing the rematch because he has too but it’s not like he got knocked out or it was a lucky punch Usyk beat him pole to pole and he’ll most likely do it again
                Only doing to rematch because he has to? All you stans were clamouring for him to step aside a month ago, saying he should let the unification fight between Usyk and Fury happen. So which is it, he has to fight or he doesn’t have to?

                Fighting Ortiz is laughable yes, because Ortiz was already offered that fight and ran a mile. He’ll only take it now for a last payday and get smashed to bits.

                Wilder doesn’t seem like he’ll fight again anyway, he certainly wouldn’t come straight back into a fight with AJ after a double ass whooping.

                Joyce would give anyone nightmares, but I’d fancy AJ more than I would Fury against him because AJ is far more likely to crack his chin. Joyce would quite possibly bust both up, nobody fancies that fight.

                Wallin is only rated by Fury stans and nobody else, just because he busted Fury up. He’s rubbish and would get beaten up.
                Last edited by NorvernRob; 03-12-2022, 04:33 PM.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ry92 View Post
                  Aj going to take ortiz he looked suspect/aged out. Also also aj like some probably see the war as drawn out russian sieging the capital meaning he will get 2 fights this year ortiz and joyce and most likely made the champ champ then cash out vs fury next yr with if usyk ever returns will fight that winner
                  Ortiz is so old that when sliced bread was invented, he was there to taste-test.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Doctor Bill View Post
                    Joe Joyce deserves the shot at Joshua more than Wallin and Ortiz, in my view. Between Wallin and Ortiz, though, Wallin is the more interesting match. We've taken Ortiz' measure. Wallin could be very good, or not particularly good at all. We don't know.
                    If A.J knocks Wallin out obviously he’s not that good but if we rewind to Wallins fight with Fury he was great then and brought his A game .

                    Come on man use that boxing scene logic .

                    Joyce is the mandatory of the WBO so yea he’s more deserving ,he’s also the absolutely opposite of Usyk beyond abilities and style . A.J is being advised to seek another southpaw for the contractually agreed to rematch.
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 03-12-2022, 05:15 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Usyk and fury are the two toughest fights for Joshua because of there IQ and skill level....all the others are not like them...Joe Joyce just comes forward and has a great chin but would be target practice for Joshua who would cause some serious damage to Joyce’s head .....wallin would be swept aside and knocked out in side 6 rounds.....also for Ortiz to old and to shot now....so it’s probably Joyce that would make the sense.
                      Wilder has now retired is what I’ve heard so that’s out the picture
                      Last edited by The plunger man; 03-12-2022, 06:27 PM.

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